Call family

[myghaelangof]

Is anyone out there researching the CALL family of Camborne At the moment I'm only interested in Elizabeth CALL baptised 1626 to Lawrence, and would like to know where she ended up. There appears to be very little about the CALLs online. I might be researching the wrong Elizabeth so please dont spend ages on this, rather you looked at your own brickwalls!
I have ordered the will of Laurence CALL gentleman of Camborne 1663 from Cornwall Record Office.
Thanks Mike

[myghaelangof]

I should add that I'm looking for an Elizabeth who married Sampson SHAKERLEY. Their first known child was baptised at Camborne in 1652, with subsequent children in St Just in Penwith. All 5 children had royalist names so little chance of tying parents in just by christian name. This appears to have been a deliberate statement of support.
Elizabeth SHAKERLEY wife of Sampson, was buried in 1665.

As the normal resources havent turned up any marriages, I have looked at all Elizabeths baptised in Camborne from 1619 onwards, and arrived at a shortlist of 4 possibilities.

Sampson was a royalist, under the command of Major Christopher GROSS, and they were the last regiment to surrender in the civil war (1651 Scilly). The Gross and Call families had close links, including to Camborne. It seemed a logical jump to think that Sampson then returned to the mainland and mixed in the same circles.

Long shots, but hey, gotta get rid of some brick walls.

[Cornish Terrier]

G'day Mike - can't say that I recall (no pun intended ) seeing the CALL name before but ..............

You probably have it but ....

Laurence CALL married Ann [Elizabeth] Merefield 27th November 1625 at Camborne by Licence

Can't see anything immediately for the marriage you are looking for and it could be anywhere.

And reading your note again suggests the possibility that they may even have married on the Scillies.

If that is where they were married then I would not hold much hope of finding a record of the event as there is all but nothing surviving prior to about 1726.

CT

[myghaelangof]

Thanks for your input Ian, and yes we may be looking at the Isles of Scilly, but I live in hope.

I have today received a copy of the will of Laurence CALL gentleman of Camborne. Written in 1659, and proven 1662, Laurence names two daughters Susannah CALLE & Millicent CALLE, leaving them £130-0-0 each. He also names his 'grandchilde' Ann GROSSE, suggesting only one granchild

Comparing to the known baptisms of 4 sons and 5 daughters, we find all 4 sons named, the two daughters above, plus one daughter presumably the mother of Ann GROSSE. A 4th daughter, Margaret, appears to have married James ROOPE gent in 1658. This leaves Ann and Elizabeth CALL unaccounted for.

It appears unlikely that Elizabeth CALL married Sampson SHAKERLEY as this couple had 3 children by 1659 are none are named in the will

Ah well, move on to the next possible Elizabeth... .

[Cornish Terrier]

Don't give it away totally just yet!

From what I read here Margaret was not mentioned in the Will either.

Question - do you know if any of the sons married and, if so, when?

If Margaret is a known daughter (and it is certainly known she was married before the Will was made) and she is not named in the Will then it stands to reason that Elizabeth having also already been married might not be mentioned either.

Their 'dowry' would probably have been their share of the estate.

The fact that only one grandchild is mentioned seems, the way you have explained it, to indicate an illegitimate child.

With Margaret marrying in 1658 it is entirely possible she also had a child by the time the Will was written yet there seems to be no mention.

Because Elizabeth was not mentioned nor any of her children may be for the simple reason that she already 'had her share'.

If any or all of the sons were already married then you would expect children there also yet there is no mention.

Just a little more food for thought.

CT

[myghaelangof]

Thanks Ian. I've been thinking about this overnight.

I'll look into the 4 named sons - Lawrence(bpt 1630), Richard 1633, Thomas 1634 and John 1637 - after the weekend when I've finished moving!

The daughters Susan (1635) and Millicent (1641) were presumably unmarried as named CALL. Therefore dad Lawrence is providing for them. As you say the other daughters may already be provided for. Elizabeth 1626, Margaret 1627 and Ann 1628 are not mentioned.

The grandchild Ann GROSSE may have been specifically mentioned as she was either orphaned, or as you suggest maybe illegitimate.

Which comes back to the possibility Elizabeth CALL might be my Elizabeth.... but then again there are a lot of Elizabeths in Cornwall

I may be in Truro in just over 2 weeks for some further investigation.

[Cornish Terrier]

The old foot in the door trick has worked again! ;D

I think it definitely worthwhile keeping this link open and the points I made are well worth investigating.

Maybe grandaughter Ann Grosse would be worth looking at first.

CT