What happened to Jane Hampton..?

[Zenobia]

John Hampton and Eliza Glasson married in Lelant in 1834. They had 10 children and eight lived to adulthood.

Eldest son Richard Hawes Hampton died in Lelant in 1860, age 24 and unmarried.

Eldest daughter Eliza never married and was living as late as 1901 where she was a servant in Littleham, Devon. She allegedly (secondary source) was buried at Lelant in 1923.

Sons John and Robert both immigrated to Australia, John dying in Geelong in 1915 and Robert in Bendigo the same year.

Daughter Ann married Thomas Scadden and died in Lelant in 1888.

Son Joseph immigrated to Pennsylvania, and died in Cambria Co. in 1914.

Daughter Catherine married Frederick Trevenen and also went to Penna., dying in Cambria Co. in 1926.

The million dollar question is, what happened to daughter Jane Hampton? She was chr. at Lelant on 29 July 1842 and is present with her family on the 1851 census. In 1861 she is living in Madron as a servant with the Martin Matthews family. Then she disappears.

I checked the free BMD Marriages for any Jane Hamptons marrying in the Penzance or Redruth District, and then checked census records for the few I found, but none match. I searched all of the later British censuses for Janes b. ca. 1842 in Lelant with no luck either. And I cannot locate a death for her after 1861 as a spinster.

The 1914 obituary of her brother Joseph Hampton mentions only his sister Catherine in South Fork, and "two brothers in Australia". But allegedly his sister Eliza was still alive in Cornwall and was not mentioned, so Jane may or may not have been still living.

I cannot find a Jane Hampton immigrating to America that fits. I am wondering if she may have gone to Australia and then married there. If anyone could find her I would certainly be greatful...

[Cornish Terrier]

I have just done a search of the UK Census through to 1901 and their appears to be no trace of Jane.
Also checked Madron and Lelant Marriages and Burials to no avail.

Then I checked the Victorian and South Australian Records but, again, no luck!
I don't have records for the other States but would have thought, had she come to Australia, she would most likely have come to Victoria.

What about South Africa??

[Zenobia]

ianjtrewhella said:

I have just done a search of the UK Census through to 1901 and their appears to be no trace of Jane.
Also checked Madron and Lelant Marriages and Burials to no avail.

Then I checked the Victorian and South Australian Records but, again, no luck!
I don't have records for the other States but would have thought, had she come to Australia, she would most likely have come to Victoria.

What about South Africa??

Ian,

Thanks so much for checking the available Aussie records!

Would you happen to be able to find the immigration info for her brothers John (b. 1840) and Robert (b. 1846)? They immigrated to Victoria sometime between 1861 and 1871.

[Cornish Terrier]

Not sure about that from where I am.
I am too far away from where the records would be kept to see physically and I am not certain what is online.

Pleae give me a reminder and I will try and check online sources and see if there is any way I can get at what we need.

I have access to UK records courtesy of 'a friend' but I cannot guarantee that will cover the OZ stuff. (Just like it does not cover the US stuff!!)

Will see what I can do but - please remind me.

[Zenobia]

ianjtrewhella said:

Not sure about that from where I am.
I am too far away from where the records would be kept to see physically and I am not certain what is online.

Pleae give me a reminder and I will try and check online sources and see if there is any way I can get at what we need.

I have access to UK records courtesy of 'a friend' but I cannot guarantee that will cover the OZ stuff. (Just like it does not cover the US stuff!!)

Will see what I can do but - please remind me.

Ooops! From the way you had the answer about Jane worded, I thought maybe you had access to a lot of immigration records for OZ...

I did look thru the Immigrant Ship Transcriber's Guild, but no luck.

[Cornish Terrier]

OK - Just found some stuff onliine for Assisted and Unassisted Passengers into Australia.
Appears to be nothing relevant that I can find for New South Wales.

But Victoria shows up one Jane Hampton as an Assisted Passenger in 1863.
I don't think this will be your girl but here is the information from the Index:-

Assisted British Immigration

Index to Registers of Assisted British Immigrants 1839-1871



1 result found.


Family Name Given Name Age Month Year Ship Book Page
HAMPTON JANE 18 JUL 1863 CADUCEUS 13A 232


There were two Jane Hamptons who arrived as 'Unassisted' passengers between 1852 and 1923.
One was in 1884 at the age of 22.
The other was in 1908 aged 33.
Reckon they are both out of the equation.

That seems to be the best I can do at the moment.

The first one is 'close' but .....

[cornishmaid]

Sorry, but couldn't find an obituary or even a notice of death for Eliza Hampton, buried Lelant 31 December 1891

Am going to have to go back to the AC in St Ives tomorrow (what a chore ), so if there are any other persons and/or dates you want me to check, just let me know.

There was a Hampton family file there, but I couldn't see anything which matched up with the family you were looking for. However, will try and photocopy what there is tomorrow in case you're interested in any of it.

[Zenobia]

cornishmaid said:

There was a Hampton family file there, but I couldn't see anything which matched up with the family you were looking for. However, will try and photocopy what there is tomorrow in case you're interested in any of it.

Oh yes please! There weren't too many Hamptons in Penwith, so they are probably related...

[cornishmaid]

No problem, will do the copying tomorrow all being well

I've printed out this thread in case I get time to look up anything else tomorrow. If not, will have another look next week.

[Zenobia]

ianjtrewhella said:

OK - Just found some stuff onliine for Assisted and Unassisted Passengers into Australia.
Appears to be nothing relevant that I can find for New South Wales.

But Victoria shows up one Jane Hampton as an Assisted Passenger in 1863.
I don't think this will be your girl but here is the information from the Index:-

Assisted British Immigration

Index to Registers of Assisted British Immigrants 1839-1871



1 result found.


Family Name Given Name Age Month Year Ship Book Page
HAMPTON JANE 18 JUL 1863 CADUCEUS 13A 232

Oh! I just caught this one... she is not too far off in age, but is there any way to find out if the ship in question was carrying other Cornish passengers? If not, then she may have been from some other part of England. If lots of Cornish tho' - then she might be a distinct possibility!

[Cornish Terrier]

Will see what I can do as soon as I get the opportunity.

[mel]

Hello, I'm investigating a Jane Hampton born circa 1845 who married Robert Barwick in 1867. Father was John Hampton (based on marriage cert and death record). The 1891 and 1901 census both mention Lelant (or "Seland" as it's transcribed from the 91 record). This Jane emigrated in Canada in 1903 - following 2 of her children - and died 1915. Another child emigrated to New Zealand (my ancestor).

Both the 1851 and 1861 census for the Jane Hampton mentioned upthread have a 1842 birthdate, but I'm wondering if it's the same Jane? Were there other Jane Hampton's born in this area around 1845? I haven't been able to find any.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Mel - I spent a little time on this but in the end it was fairly easy to find the answer for you.

You were battling with a couple of difficulties of which one was the mis-transcription in the 1891 which gave the place of birth for Jane as SELAND. In fact this is LELAND (Lelant). The other problem for you was that Jane, like many women found in the Census records, was represented as being a little younger than she actualy was.
The Census which is most accurate is, unfortunately, the more difficult to read and again transcription errors appear. The 1871 Census shows Jane's projected birthdate transcribed as 1833! I admit it is a little difficult to read but some enhancement with a PC does help.

In 1871 the ages of Robert Barwick and Jane (Hampton) are recorded as 29 and 28 respectively giving birth years of 1841/2 and 1842/3. After this Jane's birth year appeared as being anywhere from 1844 to 1849 in various records!

Jane was baptised at Lelant 29th July 1842 daughter of John Hampton and Eliza Glasson who married at Lelant 6th October 1834.

And Eliza Glasson's mother was Elizabeth Trewhella who was a sister to my 4xgt-grandfather!

CT

[mel]

Hi CT, thanks so much for your help. I'm trying not to make assumptions so it's good to have a bit of independent confirmation that I'm on the right track. I had all the details you mentioned above but was hesitant to make the leap.
Jane was my 3 x gt grandmother so we are related!

Hopefully Zenobia comes back here one day and sees the answer to this question also.

Mel

[Cornish Terrier]

Always happy to be of help Mel and I would certainly like to see Zenobia back again ..... she started this form about seven years ago and left me holding the bag about five few years back! (I don't really mind - things happen in life to change priorities but hopefully Zenobia will find time to get back here one day.)

You will find more about the Hamptons, Glassons and Trewhellas on this site but don't hesitate to ask for help or advice at any time.

CT