Ada Glasson

[sue]

Okay, re-reading this thread, I would just comment that the 1882 “Edith” Glasson bride's signature as Eda may well correspond to accents indeed I suspect, CT: my maternal grandmother was an Edith, but always known as Edie... “Ada” in a Cornish accent might be “Edie” to some people's ears.

Anyway, to the matter now at hand, the 1892 newspaper report mentioning a daughter to what seems to be Ann Glasson 31 March 1816 of Joseph Glasson~Wilmot Quick. Yes, it does provide a strong indication that Ada was after all that Ann's daughter.

Why Ada was 1851 with widowed Ann (Prous) Curnow and her daughter Amelia at Trembethow we can only speculate... many possibilities, some darker than others.

Sue

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Sue - yes, I am satisfied that Ada Glasson was the granddaughter of Joseph and Wilmot via their daughter Ann bp. 1816.

CT

[Glazin2018]

A little excerpt from the newspaper that I missed when I last looked at this issue:

Cornishman - Thursday 16 February 1893

PENZANCE BOARD OF GUARDIANS

Unfair To a Sister

Ann Glasson had a few pounds in the savings'-bank, and she is now in the house. - Mr. Bazeley asked how her money had been taken out of the bank? In the palmy days of Wheal Sisters the woman kept a little shop, had an illegitimate child, and placed money to provide for it in the hands of a daughter. It was not certain whether the money was placed in the bank in the name of the old woman or her daughter or both. - Believing she was about to die (Mr. Giles said) her brother and daughter took the money out of the Penzance savings' - bank and used it themselves. Mr. Giles had talked to the man sharply on the matter, as he had treated his sister badly, but he is likely to be the house soon.

Lannanta

[sue]

Thankyou for this interesting extra bit of information. So, Ann ran a small shop for a time, and made sufficient to put away the equivalent of £1000s in today's money per the previous newspaper entry. But more importantly, she put this money aside for her illegitimate daughter. I've not come across evidence of an unmarried mother in these parts doing this before.

Sue

[Glazin2018]

Hi Sue

I am not sure about the money and how much of it there was, I would imagine not a lot.  The house referred to in the article is the Madron Workhouse which is where she, and her rather drunken unscrupulous brother James, died.

This is Ann, the shopkeeper, and her brother James at Polpeor in the 1881 census:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Polpeor, Uny-Lelant, Penzance, Cornwall
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Glasson Head Single Male 51 1830 Farmer 40 Acres Lelant, Cornwall
Ann Glasson Sister Single Female 65 1816 Shop Keeper Lelant, Cornwall
Wilmot Glasson Niece Single Female 28 1853 - Lelant, Cornwall

I do have a fair idea whereabouts in the lane that shop was from when Ralph Olds took me to the farm a few years back.

Lannanta

[Glazin2018]

Good morning

So, still studying this issue there comes to light in 1868, the year following the death of their father Joseph, another newspaper item that relates in a way to what has been discussed - more so with James and Ann living together at Polpeor than relating to the daughter of Ann.  This item relates to whether or not the James, the occupier at Polpeor, was entitled to vote.

Royal Cornwall Gazette - Thursday 24 September 1868

The Registration Courts - list of voters for the Borough of St Ives

Saturday. The Court opened to-day at one o'clock, when, his Honour having disposed of the cases upon which he had deferred his decisions, proceeded with the list for the parish of Lelant. .... James Glasson (C) occupied house and land under Mr. Tyringham, at the rent of £24 a year. Had two sisters one of whom lived with him. He succeeded his father in occupation and he paid his sisters the portion left to them under their father's will at Christmas last. Mr. Rogers objected to the vote on the ground that it was clearly a joint occupation, as the sisters had part of the property till Glasson had paid them off, and the value was not therefore sufficient, as in this case the voter must qualify under the old Act. Mr. Beer argued that there was no joint tenancy whatever. The property was merely charged with a certain debt, which had been paid according to the will. His Honour taking this view the vote was allowed.

So, in 1892 James knew his sister Ann had at least some money because he gave it to her at the end of 1867.  There is clearly a Will here and it would be interesting to know if it is accessible anywhere in the various archives.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

I have spent some time searching possible sources of the Will of Joseph Glasson but cannot find a reference to it anywhere. I considered the possibility it may have been in the Consistory Court of Exeter and therefore lost during the War but any reference to Exeter Wills suggests none after 1800.

I rechecked the PCC Wills as well but the cutoff there appears to be 1858 and I even tried searching for all Wills in 1867 for anyone named Joseph in Cornwall but again to no avail.

CT