Davies-Thomas at Paul, Madron etc

[Mal]

Hello there everyone,

In our ongoing research for the Davies/Davis/Dav(e)ys or Paul/Newlyn a couple of names have turned up that seem interesting. If anyone has any more information on them please let me know...

Henry Nicholls Davies b1798-ish Paul s/o Francis and Mary. I have found a Francis Davies married to a Mary Nicholls at Falmouth but am cautious about assuming an automatic link. Henry seems to vanish from the records, I can't find him in later census information at all. Also, the Falmouth connection seems a bit odd, yet there is only one child baptised at Paul on record.

I also have a Francis Davies Thomas and a Caroline Davies Thomas. Caroline is the daughter of Peter Thomas, mason Penzance but is baptised at Paul to Peter and Frances/Fanny, I can't find out any more about this Peter and Fanny other than a paper trail leads back to a Lucretia Dalle/Dale. Caroline marries William Berryman and a witness is Alexander Berryman who is also a witness at one of "my" Davies weddings. I can't seem to establish where the Davies part comes from- interestingly they alternate between Davies/Davis and Davy in the records.

There also seems to be an interesting connection to the Dale family as one of my Davies' is a witness at the marriage of Abraham Lawry and Selena Dale and vice-versa.

Later on a Lydia Davies marries and Andrew Nicholls Dale at Madron in 1865- Lydia Davies is the d/o Francis Davies farmer at Penzance- yet census details seem to indicate Crowan. I can't find much that is conclusive about this lot at Crowan and the census details seem to conflict/vanish on certain individuals.

I know it seems like clutching at straws but there are a few question marks over some of these Davies' and even if we can only rule them out then we are a step closer in identifying my elusive ancestor's background!

Thanks in advance,
M

[Cornish Terrier]

Caroline marries William Berryman and a witness is Alexander Berryman who is also a witness at one of "my" Davies weddings.

Don't know if it will help clear anything up for you Malcolm but this William BERRYMAN was the son of Alexander and also had a brother of that name.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

Malcolm - I am not yet able to find a marriage for Peter Thomas and Frances.

Peter died prior to the 1841 Census which is, of course a great help to us!

But Frances was still living in 1851, age 58, and gave her birthplace as St Mary's, Scilly.

A possible clue to her identity is that there was a daughter named Mary MORTIMER Thomas.

Mortimer was, and I think still is, a Scillies name so it is quite possible that this is where Frances belongs.

And I believe I have further proof of the Scillies link.

In the 1841 Census Frances has a son, James, whose baptism does not appear in the Paul records.

However a search of IGI has produced:-

James s/o Peter and Frances Thomas bp. 1st November 1817 Scilly Islands Parish

It is possible the marriage took place on the Scillies but it does not seem to appear in the records I have available.

Looking for possibilities for Peter Thomas and I would have to say that he must almost certainly be:-

Peter s/o James and Lucretia Thomas bp. 28th April 1793 at Paul

I think this probably agrees with your suggestions about Lucretia Dale.

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

A little more for you Malcolm

Peter Thomas of Street an Nowan age 48 buried 19th May 1841 at Paul

And I would suggest the following are his parents:-

Lucretia Thomas of Street an Nowan age 77 buried 9th May 1830 at Paul

James Thomas of Street an Nowan age 76 buried 20th June 1831 at Paul

That would make James:-

James s/o James and Margaret Thomas bp. 6th October 1754 at Paul

James Thomas married Margeret Weymouth of St Buryan 7th December 1749 at Paul

None of this seems to give any clue to the origins of the Davis/Davies name in the family.