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Post by alocin66 on Aug 18, 2009 8:18:38 GMT -5
Hi, I would be grateful for any information regarding a Richard Nicholas baptised 27.5.1849 who married a Mary nankervis on 30.5.1871 and their children, especially dobs. I know the youngest child was born in Cardiff - Edwin b. 6.1893
Richard had a brother James Tan who was baptised on the same day as his brother - cannot find any other info about him.
Many thanks ;D
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 18, 2009 9:54:25 GMT -5
Welcome to Penwith Genealogy.  I am having a quick look at your problem to see what I can find but I may have to do more over the coming days. However - in 1901 Richard and Mary were at 215 Carlisle St, Roath, Cardiff. Richard was a Ship Steward and both he and Mary are recorded as having been born at Penzance. At this time they had five children living at home - all born Cardiff:- William age 16 Agnes age 14 James age 11 Winifred age 9 Edwin age 7 In 1891 they were also at Roath with the following children:- Mary E age 19 born Penzance John age 14 born Penzance Louisa age 12 born Penzance Lilly age 9 born Penzance William H age 6 born Cardiff Agnes age 4 born Cardiff James age 2 born Cardiff In 1881 Mary and the children were at Chancery Lane, Penzance. I expect Richard was at sea at this time. The surname was recorded as NICHOLLS. Mary's birthplace was then recorded as Paul which is probably more accurate given the place of marriage was also at Paul. Children were Mary E age 9, Richard age 6, John age 4 and Grace L age 2. Grace L is no doubt Louisa from the later Census and all children are recorded as born Penzance. I do not have access to Penzance baptisms so am unable to help with birth/baptism dates for any of these children at the moment. Here is the marriage from the Paul records:- 30 May 1871 by Banns Richard Nicholas full age Fisherman of Mousehole (Father: John Nicholas, Carpenter) Mary Nankervis full age of Mousehole (Father: William Henry Nankervis, Mariner) Witnesses: John P. Blewett, Ane Sampson Rowe I will attempt to find some information on James but will otherwise need to come back to this problem tomorrow. CT |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 18, 2009 10:34:03 GMT -5
James Tan Nicholas was a couple of years older than Richard although they were baptised on the same day.
In 1851 James was age 4 and his birth appears in FreeBMD as James TEARE Nicholas born December Qtr 1846 Vol 9 Page 224.
Their father, John Nicholas, was born at Sennen about 1805 and is possibly:-
John s/o John and Anne Nicholas bp. 2nd July 1805 Sennen (John Nicholas married Anne Ash 5th November 1798 at Sennen)
The eldest child living at home in 1851 was Elizabeth who was born at Paul about 1833. (bp. 26th October 1834 at Paul)
I can fill in more gaps a little later but the parents of your Richard Nicholas are were married at Paul:-
8 Oct 1826 by Banns
John Nicholas of St. Levan
Jane Ash [Mark]
Witnesses: Richard Ash, Richard Pentreath
James cannot be found in the 1861 Census and he is certainly not with his parents. I suspect he might be the following buried at Paul:-
James T Nicholas of Mousehole age 6 buried 21st November 1851
There was a Jane Ash age 91, widow, living with this family in 1861 and I believe this will be John Nicholas' mother-in-law.
Will leave it at that for now but I think I have managed to answer some of your questions.
CT
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Post by alocin66 on Aug 18, 2009 15:22:47 GMT -5
Thanks ever so much to you both for the information - some of which I know, some I didn't!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 19, 2009 12:08:03 GMT -5
I have now managed to trace both Richard and Mary back a couple of generations.
Just let me know what you require and I will pass the information on.
CT
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Post by alocin66 on Aug 19, 2009 14:43:18 GMT -5
Fabulous CT!
I have info going back a a couple of generations too:
Richard's siblings I have are:
Elizabeth 1834
Mary E 1839
James 1841
Agnes 1844
James Teare 1847
Agnes Jane 1851
John 1856
(baptism dates)
His father John, mother Jane. John's father John, mother Anne....some info from you of course!
Anything else you've found?
Kind regards
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 19, 2009 16:47:16 GMT -5
Okay - here we go!
John NICHOLAS m. Ann ASH 5th November 1798 Sennen
John bp. 2nd July 1805 Sennen
m. 8th October 1826 Paul
Jane ASH
John bp. 25th March 1827 Paul
Nancy bp. 20th April 1829 Paul
Jane bp. 26th October 1834 Paul
James bp. 25th June 1837 Paul (buried 6th January 1839 age 2)
Elizabeth bp. 25th June 1837 Paul
Mary bp. 9th June 1839 Paul
James Tare bp. 17th October 1841 (buried 13th January 1843)
James Tan (Teare) born 1846 bp. 27th May 1849 Paul (buried 21st November 1851 age 6)
RICHARD bp. 27th May 1849 Paul
Agnes Jane bp. 19th December 1851 Paul (buried 16th February 1868 age 17)
Abode for all the above was Mousehole.
In 1851 Nancy was head of household living not far from her parents and looking after her young cousins John, Eliza and Catherine HARRY.
They were children of Jane Ash's sister Elizabeth who had married James HARRY at Paul in 1840.
Jane ASH was bp. 19th July 1807 at Paul
Elizabeth ASH bp. 16th December 1811 at Paul
There were six other children to this family all born Paul to parents:-
William ASH married Jane DELAHAY 19th October 1793 at Paul
No more on William Ash.
Jane DELAHAY bp. 15th September 1771 at Paul d/o Richard DELAHAY and Jennifer EDDY who married 28th June 1767 at St Just.
Richard DELAHAY was a mariner of St George's Macclesfield, Chester
Now for Mary NANKERVIS.
Mary NANKERVIS was baptised 14th April 1854 at Paul age 1 d/o William Henry NANKERVIS and Alice NICHOLLS who married 28th April 1852 at Paul
William Henry NANKERVIS bp. 29th July 1832 at Sancreed s/o Henry and Elizabeth
Alice NICHOLLS bp. 18th October 1829 at Paul d/o Andrew NICHOLLS and Alice WARREN who married 3rd June 1816 at Paul.
That is as far as I have gone for now but I believe it to be accurate and all information is based on Census records, Parish Register transcripts from the OPC and others and Phillimore Marriages.
CT
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Post by alocin66 on Aug 20, 2009 2:44:22 GMT -5
Thanks sooo helpful to me, thank you so much for your time and efforts. I really am grateful!
Kind regards,
alocin66
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 20, 2009 7:14:12 GMT -5
You are welcome.  All I ask in return is that you do not 'desert us'.  Please stay and remain an active member - you never know where some of these lines will lead!  |
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Post by alocin66 on Sept 8, 2009 8:59:22 GMT -5
Hi CT et al, Well, another Nicholas descendant has contacted me - like my father-in-law, he is a great grandson of Richard Nicholas... It turns out that he was estranged from the Nicholas side of the family but wants to know more...how exciting! Thanks to this forum's help I have provided information that he did not have! Good work people, and thanks once again! alocin66 |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 8, 2009 9:56:26 GMT -5
A pleasure to be of help. Keep in touch with us and let us know what other links you are interested in. CT |
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