Edward Quick m. Grace Trenerry

[Cornish Terrier]

Time to take a look at what has become another mystery family in the Quick clan.

Edward Quick married Grace Trenerry at St Hilary in 1802

Edward was a 'baker' and was buried at St Ives 12th March 1836 at the age of 53.

Known children:-

William - 1803-1806 St Ives
Elizabeth Trenerry bp. 17th March 1805 St Ives
Grace - 1807-1809 St Ives
Mary Ann bp. 30th September 1810 St Ives Independent
William bp. 19th June 1812 St Ives
Samuel - 1814-1815 St Ives
Selina - bp. 10th March 1816 St Ives
Emma bp. 5th September 1824 St Ives
Joseph Edward bp. 5th September 1824 St Ives

It has been previously worked out that William (1812) was married to someone named Elizabeth sometime before 1836.

Elizabeth was born about 1815 at St George, Middlesex and it is possible that her maiden name was WELCH given a son named John Welch Quick.

William died in the Stepheny/Bethnal Green R.D. of London in 1880.

Until now that is all that I have ever been able to find out about this family.

They are not found in the 1841 Census - at least not in Cornwall.

NOW - there is a particular baptism at St Ives that I am now sure belongs to this family.

Samuel s/o Edward (baker) and Elizabeth Quick bp. 27th February 1818 St Ives

There is no record of Edward Quick having married a second time so it is unclear why the name Elizabeth was recorded as the mother.

And there is no other Edward Quick who was a baker at St Ives.

Hopefully Lannanta will agree with my conclusion?

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I can now happily say that I have tracked down one more member of this family!

William HEIGHWAY married Elizabeth Trennerry QUICK
St. Geo. Southwk R.D. 1839 March Qtr Vol 4 Page 323

They can be found in the 1851 Census Colledge St, St Pancras with eight children.

The first of these children was age 22 in 1851 which means that this must have been a second marriage for William Heighway.

Mary Ann d/o Edward and Grace Quick married James Styles in 1838 at North Aylesford R.D. in Kent.

Trenerry was used as a middle name for the four children I have found.

I will continue to work on this family and see if I can track down the rest.

CT

[londoner]

From Barnoon inscriptions:

Quick Elizabeth Quick 3/1869 55 James died Ballaratt Australia 30/12/1884 daughter Betsey Trenerry Quick 15/4/1852–25/2/1940

Presumably connected?

[Cornish Terrier]

Actually - NO! - Unless there was a connection on the Trenerry side.

Betsy was the daughter of James Quick and Elizabeth Quick who married at St Ives in 1837.

James was son of Robert Quick and Elizabeth Trenerry while Elizabeth was daughter of Robert Quick and Elizabeth Stevens.

At this point I have no parents for Elizabeth Trenerry.

The Grace Trenerry who married Edward Quick was, I believe, baptised at St Ives 1st January 1782 d/o William Trenerry and Elizabeth Osborn who married at Zennor in 1777.

Unfortunately Elizabeth w/o Robert Quick died prior to the 1851 Census so I have no idea where she was born.

She was still alive in 1841 and her age recorded as 60 which makes the closest match in IGI as a baptism in 1778 at Perranzabuloe d/o Richard and Margaret.

CT

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CT

Samuel s/o Edward (baker) and Elizabeth Quick bp. 27th February 1818 St Ives.

Yes I agree and I have had the following note in my database for sometime:

Samuel s/o Edward (baker) and Elizabeth Quick bp. 27th February 1818 St Ives - The parish record shows the parents as Edward and Elizabeth instead of Edward and Grace. However, given that Edward's occupation is given as a baker, which is the same as three previous children, I have assumed that Elizabeth should have read as Grace.

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

I will update my database accordingly.

Reckoned it was the only answer but wanted a second opinion.

The marriages quoted in my previous are confirmed from Census records and also with the names of the children but I am yet to find Samuel, Selina or Emma at this point.

Also no luck with mother Grace but it seems the family must have moved to the London and Kent area soon after Edward died in 1836.

Will take another look at the problem later on tonight.

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CT

You have 1836?

Also no luck with mother Grace but it seems the family must have moved to the London and Kent area soon after Edward died in 1836

On the 16th June 1824 at St Ives, Bond upon the Admon of the goods etc of Edward Quick, baker, deceased, granted to Grace Quick the widow of the deceased.

Now according to the burial records Edward the baker was either 51 or 57 years old meaning that he could not be the son of William Quick and Joan Trenwith.

But the burial in 1836, where Edward was 53 is a good match for the son of William and Joan, but have we got a mix up here?

I have got the sneaking suspicion that we are heading back to North Molton. Edward the baker appears to be the son of Gabriel and Elizabeth and born at North Molton??

Lannanta

[Cornish Terrier]

Oh! I see!

I was not aware of the 1824 Admon for Edward Quick. Although now that I check your list of Wills etc. I do notice reference to that Bond.

It is obvious that I had reached my conclusions prior to any knowledge of Edward's baptism at North Molton.

Seems I need to make a couple more adjustments to the database to correct this.

Looking at it with this update and it probably makes a little more sense given that Edward the baker is now 30 (and not 20) at marriage.

And it means that the last two children, Emma and Joseph Edward, were baptised (and probably born) after Edward's demise.

It also means that the removal of the family to London was much earlier than I thought and indicates that Samuel, Emma and Joseph may be buried outside Cornwall.

And now for the intriguing question - why use the name William for two sons and not name any son Gabriel??

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

Although not quite the usual or accustomed manner of naming children that we keep talking about I do have a solution to the problem of naming two sons William.

It is my belief that Grace Trenerry was bp. 1st January 1782 at St Ives d/o William Trenerry and Elizabeth Osborn.

The first daughter (second child) was named Elizabeth Trenerry Quick so it now seems likely that the first son (and later replacement) was named for the father of Grace rather than of Edward.

This also fits with the naming of one of the grandchildren.

Mary Ann Quick married James Styles and one of the sons from this marriage was recorded in FreeBMD as 'William Trenerig Horn Styles' in 1848.

A search for William T Styles provides no further reference to this child.

However this a later marriage for a 'William Trenerry O Styles' in 1881.

I think this is one and the same person and the name is most likely to have been 'William Trenerry Osborn Styles'.

Therefore a tradition was established based on the parents of Grace Quick nee Trenerry.

The name Gabriel appears to not appear anywhere in the family and the remaining sons of Edward were Samuel and Joseph Edward.

[eastlondoner]

I can confirm some details of William Quick b. 1812 and his family in East London.

William married Elizabeth Margaret WELCH at Holy Trinity, Minories on 26th July 1835.

Children were Edward 1836/7, William 1839/40, Elizabeth 1841/2, John Welch 1845, Mary Ann 1846/7, Frederick 1850 and possibly Samuel 1852/3 and Mary 1854.

John Welch Quick was my 2g grandfather and lived from 1845-1896 ffathering it seems at least 13 children including seven boys so is likely to be responsible for quite a few East London Quicks. My grandmother Elizabeth Clara Finch nee Quick, 1903-1962 was the last Quick in my family line. The Cornish connection was only initially guessed at when the family went on holiday to St Ives in the 1950s and found it to be full of Quicks!

William b. 1812 was a journeyman cabinet maker from at least 1851, which appears to mean he was involved in the East London trade for cheap furniture built in small factories. The family first settled in St George in the East and moved to Bethnal Green sometime after 1851.

William died on 28th March 1880 at Prospect Terrace, Bethnal Green. The 'Prospect' makes it sounds idyllic but in fact the property overlooked a cemetery!

[Cornish Terrier]

Welcome to the site 'eastlondoner' - and many thanks for the additional information. Always nice to add a little to the Quick clan.

CT