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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2009 20:39:58 GMT -5
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Have you worked out who the Elizabeth Quick was who married Robert Curnow at Towednack on the 21st October 1829 was?
It is interesting because by 1851 this family was at Cripples Ease and we have just been looking at another issue there. Also visiting this family in the 1851 census was Wilmot Quick aged 19 also from Towednack.
At first glance I am thinking that the 19 year old Wilmot is the daughter of James Quick and Mary Quick and I am thinking that she appears twice in the 1851 census. If I am right then the most likely candidate for Elizabeth is the sister of Wilmot's mother Mary - bap 5/4/1801 to James Quick and Elizabeth Quick.
Appreciate your thoughts.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 5, 2009 4:59:04 GMT -5
Lannanta - quite correct again!  Elizabeth was certainly the daughter of James and Elizabeth but I must say that I do not recall having noticed niece Wilmot enumerated twice. Having looked at the Census now it would appear there is no other option in regards to Wilmot. Robert Curnow was baptised 17th November 1805 at Towednack son of Stephen CURNOW and Margaret TYACK. Robert died in 1856 and in the 1861 Census you will find widowed Betsey at Wheal Carn, Towednack, with children John, Wilmot, Andrew, Mary and Alice. In 1871 Elizabeth was at Chylason with children Wilmot, and Andrew and married daughter Alice WHITE with two of her children. In 1881 she was back at Cripple's Ease with son John and daughter Wilmot. Elizabeth Curnow of Chylasson, age 83, was buried at Towednack 26th December 1884. CT |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2009 5:38:32 GMT -5
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I came to this conclusion as well but I was wondering if you know who the parents of this Stephen were? I think there were two options quite close together - Robert/Mary and Robert/Margery.
I do not want to get too invloved with this family but I now have quite a few Curnows attached to my Quicks and Glassons and I thought a bit of housekeeping would be beneficial.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 5, 2009 5:57:35 GMT -5
The two Stephen Curnows you mention were from the same family.
Robert CURNOW m. Margery LEMBRY
No marriage has yet been found but other evidence (which I will need to dig out) links the two.
Stephen s/o Robert and Margery bp. 14th April 1751 Towednack was buried at Towednack 21st February 1755
The second Stephen bp. 26th December 1755 was incorrectly recorded as son of Robert and MARY but is the one who married Elizabeth Quick.
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Post by sue on Jul 5, 2009 14:59:51 GMT -5
Do you have Emma Jane Thomas b 1878 daughter of Emma Glasson b 1841, herself daughter of Jakeh Glasson b 1805 - which Emma Jane Thomas definitely married a Thomas Curnow, in 1899? Sorry! Sue |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 6, 2009 4:38:56 GMT -5
Sue - I have just done a bit of work on Emma Glasson and her marriage to John Thomas. Apart from FreeBMD I cannot find the marriage amongst my available resources. However John THOMAS married Emma GLASSON 1859 Penzance R.D. December Qtr Vol 5c Page 570 The children were all born at St Ives and I suspect there may have been a couple more to add to the list below. But these are all I could find in the Census:- John b. 1860 Samuel b. 1866 Joseph b. 1867 Edwin b. 1870 William Martin b. 1872 James b. 1874 Emma Jane Carnarton b. 1878 Florence Catherine b. 1882 Ellen Helena b. 1883 (Not found in FreeBMD) Emma Jane C THOMAS married Thomas Herbert CURNOW 1899 Penzance R.D. December Qtr Vol 5c Page 487 Son Herbert Charles CURNOW was born at St Ives in 1900. The interesting piece of information from this (and something you may not yet have found  ) is:- In the 1901 Census Emma was living with her parents at Halsetown. At this time Emma had two children of whom the first was Sidney Morris CURNOW, age 2. John THOMAS - I am not quite certain of the identity of Emma Glasson's husband but it does appear there is probably only one candidate from the 1841 Census. John Uren THOMAS bp. 30th December 1838 St Ives s/o Martin THOMAS and Mary UREN who married at St Ives 16th June 1823. I don't know if this will give any clues to the origin of the name CARNARTEN in the family but it is certainly worth a look. CT Due to some information being of a sensitive nature some details have been removed from this post. |
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Post by sue on Jul 7, 2009 15:12:01 GMT -5
Ooops, perhaps should have made my post clearer!  John Uren Thomas & Emma Glasson were my GGGparents. When I visited St Ives Archive Centre late 2008 when I 1st started looking @ family history, they helped me find John Uren Thomas' parents in parish records as Martin Thomas & Mary Uren, who brought up their family on the farm @ Hendra, St Ives, per census records. Mary Uren was daughter of Samuel Uren born c 1770 & Catherine Uren Major, b 1773 (illeg daughter of Catherine Major). I've stopped there with with that line for now. Martin Thomas, born 1792ish St Buryan per census: other than his father being Martin Thomas also per marriage details on microfiche, I have not yet pursued this either as yet. Emma Glasson b 1841 was 6th child of Jakeh Glasson & Phillipa Quick; Jakeh was 4th son of John Glasson & Elizabeth Trewhella - you know the Trewhellas.... John & Elizabeth's lineage I have from various sources. Back to John Uren Thomas & Emma Glasson's children: that is indeed the 9 (& the 9th, Ellen Helena, was known as Nellie, I knew her.) Their 1st girl, EJC Thomas b 1878, was my GGmother. She married Thomas Curnow 1899 & her 2nd son was definitely Herbert; her 1st Sydney. Thanks for that other snippet.... On the Cannarton subject, I've just found something (not the connection I'm after as yet,) but lots of Canarthen information, :)which at first glance looks like it roughly matches the numbers of Canarthen people found in various baptisms etc in the last few days, PLUS gives some extra information on Canarthen location etc...I'm putting the link in a post on the Connarton thread, to save any of you kind peolpe duplicating. Sue |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 8, 2009 2:52:40 GMT -5
Thanks Sue I will check on some of these details later tonight.
I have sent you a couple of additions via PM.
Your information regarding Mary UREN is exactly what I found but I have also not tried to puruse that line any further as yet.
Martin THOMAS was baptised 14th May 1792 at St Buryan son of Martin THOMAS and Grace ELLIS.
Martin and Grace were married at St Levan 18th September 1778 and this elder Martin was buried at St Ives 7th January 1824 at the age of 71.
There are two burial entries at St Ives for Grace THOMAS but I am not sure yet just which is the correct one.
Martin snr. appears to be the Martin THOMAS baptised 13th October 1751 at St Levan.
Parents would be Joseph THOMAS and Eleanor VELLENOWETH who married at Ludgvan 6th March 1735.
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Post by sue on Jul 8, 2009 14:37:51 GMT -5
Grace Ellis Thomas per FreeBMD died Dec q 1890. That will be her; she was with sister 1881, but not in census 1891. From your info I now have some extra people back the Thomas line; thankyou. |Sue |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 8, 2009 14:54:42 GMT -5
You are welcome Sue. More work to be done so keep at it and I will help you along the way. CT |
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Post by sue on Jul 26, 2009 8:26:32 GMT -5
Just thought I'd give an aside update on Martin Thomas & Grace Ellis who married 17/9/1778 St Levan, & father Joseph Thomas. Whilst gathering information for my Carnarthen project (which is going quite well, she said cautiously, I now have 100+ births from a range of sources and parts of the jigsaw are coming together) I tried the National Archives looking for bastardy bonds to prove a key link re a person in Sithney. Haven't found what I was looking for, but did find 2 snippets re my Thomas 5&6Gfathers: Nat Archives has marriage settlement: X506/57 17 Sep. 1778 1. Martin Thomas, St. Levan, yeo. 2. Grace Ellis, St. Levan, spr. - £6 annuity for 2 and wood and turf from Banns and use of Martin Thomas' best house.................................................... Also, : X506/6 30 Aug. 1785 Mortgage in fee; consideration £174 1. Martin Thomas, St. Buryan, yeo. 2. Jas. Maddern, Carharrack, gent. - Moiety of Banns (Martin son of Martin was born St Buryan 1792 I already know, so this is likely the right Martin Thomas) ....................................................................................and probate paper in Nat Archive 7/11/1784 X506/59 Copy of probate of will of Jos. Thomas, St. Levan, yeo., house at Trebeere, St. Levan and the Banns, St. Buryan, son. Jas. appointed executor. So a good day. Now, back to the Carnarthens, & matching up the people in this fat file I now have, 1500s - 1900s...... Sue |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 27, 2009 0:52:28 GMT -5
Good work Sue and nice to see the progress you are making.
Also nice to have the feedback which I am sure will help others with connections to these people.
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