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Post by gamo16 on May 10, 2009 10:17:19 GMT -5
Hi everyone, Just joined the forum. I live in Wales but my connections are with the St Ives families - Trevarthen, Gyles, Paul, Paynter and Harry (so far). I can't believe how lucky those of us with Cornish ancestors are - there is so much on the web for us. I am trying to find out where the Trevarthens of St Ives originally came from (I have the transcriptions of the marriage 1607 - 1837 and baptism 1730-1840 parish records but there are only a few Trevarthens on both, so I'm assuming they came from another area). My Cornish line going back is my 2x g grandmother Grace Trevarthen b.1856 St Ives, dau. of Edward Trevarthen b.1810 St Ives, son of Edward Trevarthen b.1781 St Ives, son of Edward Trevarthen who I know nothing more about other than he was married to Mary Paynter of St Ives. I have been reading a bit of history about the Trevarthens going back to the 1200's and I would love to find my connection. Any help would be most appreciated.
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Post by tonymitch on May 10, 2009 13:16:55 GMT -5
Uffern Mawr....another Taff! Welcome. ;D I too live in the Pricnipality....Top right hand corner. You will find this a really friendly and helpful board. Looks like you have put down enough information for those who know what they are doing to help. I'm afraid that I know nothing about the Trewerthans, Gyles or Paynters but I'm certain someone will. It's really amazing what help is given. Best thing I ever did was join. Look forward to following the progress of your enquiries. Tony M
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Post by newlyn on May 10, 2009 13:49:49 GMT -5
Edward Trevarthen married Mary Paynter 5.11.1780 St Ives. Mary was b. 25.3.1751 St Ives daughter of John Paynter and Mary Nance who married 1.1.1748/49 St Ives. Mary Nance was born 31.3.1729 St Ives daughter of William Nance and Mary Geen who married 9.7.1722 Lelant. Possible birth of John Paynter 9.8.1716 St Ives son of another John Paynter and Mary?
Nothing proven gamo16. Welcome to Penwith.
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Post by Sarch on May 11, 2009 10:54:28 GMT -5
Hi Newlyn
I have as possible parents for John Paynter as John Paynter and Margaret Cock - anyone have any more information on them?
Regards
Sarch
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Post by gamo16 on May 11, 2009 11:24:35 GMT -5
Hi Newlyn Thanks for the info on Mary Paynter - such a great help. I'm just hoping I can get as far with Edward Trevarthen.
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Post by newlyn on May 11, 2009 12:38:27 GMT -5
Possible birth of Edward Trevarthen/Trevartine 30.7.1753 St Erth. Husband of Mary Paynter?? Parents of the above Edward - Henry Trevartine and Elisabeth Philips who married 4.8.1745 Gwinear. Parents of the above Henry (b. 14.8.1722 Sithney) are Henry Trevarthen and Mary? who married 21.10.1721 Crowan. All possibles.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 11, 2009 15:53:35 GMT -5
Welcome to our 'family' Gamo16. Currently I have only the marriage of Edward and Mary recorded in my database along with son Edward. This lot was put aside years ago for further investigation but I can soon resurrect it and see what I can find. A possible baptism for Edward at St Erth has been provided and this is certainly a possibility but I would like to look more into the family before saying that the link would be definite. Likewise for Mary Paynter and I will also take a look at that given it is yet another family that was put aside years ago. I would suggest that you move the conversation to the ST IVES section where it can be discussed along with other St Ives families who will no doubt enter the picture. Look forward to helping you crack some of your brickwalls. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 11, 2009 16:51:55 GMT -5
Having had a brief look around I would now tend to agree on the probability that Edward was baptised in 1753 son of Henry and Elizabeth.
Henry Trevartine married Elizabeth Phillips 4th August 1745 at Gwinear.
There was one son, Henry, baptised at Gwinear and then Richard at St Erth. Then there were two children, Elizabeth and Joseph, baptised at Phillack followed by Edward, John, Mary Elizabeth, Ann and Thomas at St Erth.
I will need to work more on this family but with extremely few Trevarthen (var.) marriages at St Ives it is almost certainly the family was from elsewhere and St Erth is only separated from St Ives by Lelant.
I have not yet looked at the possibilities for Mary Paynter but will do so.
CT
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Post by gamo16 on May 13, 2009 9:20:08 GMT -5
Thanks Cornish Terrier (are we related?) for all your hard work. I too had thought that the St Erth Edward might be a possibility. As suggested I am going to move the discussion to the ST IVES section.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 13, 2009 11:36:02 GMT -5
Well done Gamo16 - we do not always succeed but if we can try to utilise appropriate forums for discussions it does make things much easier and prevents unnecessary clutter elsewhere. I will help as much as I can and I can usually find a way through 'brickwalls' but I must say there are a few that still have me stumped. As for being related - I don't know but given we have West Penwith origins then it is always a possibility. I don't have any direct connections with Trevarthen or Paynter but there are plenty of other families involved. CT
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