John Wallis - Trevorgans and Trelodavis

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Where does this John Wallis fit in? John Wallis was married to Mary Warren 19 JUN 1841 St Buryan daughter of Richard Warren and Charlotte Elizabeth Hughes I have the couple in the 1851 Cesus below.

Marriage - 19 Jun 1841 St Buryan groom John Wallis of age, Batchelor, Occ Farmer, Res, Trelodavis, Father Peter Wallis, Occ Farmer, bride, Mary Warren of age Spinster, Res Pridden, Father William Warren, Farmer, Licence, Witnesses John Rogers, William Warren

1851 Census
Piece: HO107/1919 Place: Scilly Islands -Cornwall Enumeration District: 1d
Civil Parish: St. Buryan Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 431 Page: 28 Schedule: 50
Address: Trevorgans
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WALLIS John Head M M 33 Farmer Of 30acres Emp 2 Lab Cornwall - St Buryan
WALLIS Mary Wife M F 29 Cornwall - St Buryan
WALLIS Dorcas Dau - F 8 Scholar Cornwall - St Buryan
WALLIS John Son - M 7 Scholar Cornwall - St Buryan
WALLIS Dionysas Son - M 6 Scholar Cornwall - St Buryan
WALLIS Mary Anna Dau - F 4 Cornwall - St Buryan
WALLIS Margaret Frances Dau - F 3 Cornwall - St Buryan
WALLIS Tomasina Dau - F 1 Cornwall - St Buryan
WALLIS Grace Charity Dau - F 4m Cornwall - St Buryan
STRICK Nicholas Servnt U M 22 Ag Lab Cornwall - St Buryan
STRICK James Servnt - M 15 Ag Lab Cornwall - St Buryan
EDDY Grace Servnt U F 28 General Servant Cornwall - Zennor
CARBIES Mary Servnt U F 15 General Servant Cornwall - St Buryan


I have a Peter Wallis married to Martha Maddern but he would be too old to be John's father. Could this Peter be John's grandfather?
Martha Maddern's mother was Charity Hocken and John Wallis and Mary Warren have a daughter named Grace Charity?

I can find a marriage St Buryan 13 Jul 1816 groom Peter Wallis Yeoman Res St Buryan bride Catherine Wallis Res St Buryan, Banns Witness Margaret Wallis., consent of Friends - Are this Peter and Catherine Wallis John's parents and are they the people in the 1841 Census below? The ages were not given on marriage but they would have had to have been late 30s to be the parents of the John Wallis in the 1841 Census

So what I would really like to know is are all these people connected?

Possibly John's parents?
1841 Census
Piece: HO107/141/9 Place: Penwith -Cornwall Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: St. Buryan Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 51 Page: 3
Address: Trolodavis
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WALLIS Peter M 70 Farmer Cornwall
WALLIS Catherine F 60 Cornwall
WALLIS John M 20 Cornwall
WALLIS James M 20 Cornwall
WALLIS Elizabeth F 15 Cornwall
NICHOLS Margaret F 15 Female Servant Cornwall
LEWELLEN George F 15 Apprentice Cornwall
STRICK Nicholas M 13 Male Servant Cornwall



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[white]

Yes, Peter Wallis and Martha Maddern were the grandparents of John, who married Mary Warren.

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I can supply details of the Madderns and a little on the Wallish?Wallis
Roy

[white]

By the way, Mary Warren was the daughter of William Warren and Honour Maddern and not the parents you have.
Roy

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Thanks White

Yes sorry - I can't see straight Mary's parents were William Warren and Honour Maddern -


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[londoner]

Peter son of Peter & Martha Bap St Buryan 7 Jan 1770

Catherine d/o Jn 1778 St B (and if so which John)
or d/o William & Catherine (nee Pearce) Sancreed 1779???

Peter & Catherine m St B 13 Jul 1816 only witness Margaret Wallis "with consent of friends"

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Apr 15, 2009 11:38:44 GMT -5 londoner said:

quot;with consent of friends"

I wondered about the concent of friends. Does it mean friend friends or "Society of Friends which I think is what the Quakers called themselves?

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[Cornish Terrier]

You will find a long sequence of marriages at St Buryan with the samae annotation - 'With consent of friends'.

Judging by that I would not think it was anything to do with the Quakers.

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Marriage - 19 Jun 1841 St Buryan groom John Wallis of age, Batchelor, Occ Farmer, Res, Trelodavis, Father Peter Wallis, Occ Farmer, bride, Mary Warren of age Spinster, Res Pridden, Father William Warren, Farmer, Licence, Witnesses John Rogers, William Warren

Does anyone get a closer connection than 2nd cousin once removed between John Wallis b abt 1817 and his wife Mary Warren?

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