Charlotte Sandow Quick St Ives-Australia

[Sarch]

I have come across a marriage on a website between John Stevens Hollow and (2nd marriage for both?) Charlotte Sandow Quick in 1870 in Victoria Australia (daughter of Nathaniel Q and Susannah Sandow) Charlotte died 1873 of Phthisis. 1st Husband of Charlotte I have as Nicholas Pearce - no children


John Stevens Hollow b 1843 St Ives is the son of Edward Hollow and Honor Stevens

I have the same John Stevens Hollow in my database married 1876 to 1st wife Mary Wallis b abt 1845 daughter of Thomas Wallis and Peggy Richards - I do not have a death date for Mary Wallis

Charlotte died in Australia and I have John Stevens Hollow dying in 1925 St Ives

I've had John Stevens Hollow in my database all this time and never knew that he travelled to Australia and back never mind a second marriage as well


Sarch

[Cornish Terrier]

Time to resurrect another old thread!

Sarch - You seem to have things a little mixed up here because Mary Wallis would have been the second wife of John Stevens Hollow. John and Mary had at least five children from about 1879 through 1890 and there may have been another one or two between 1876 and 1879.

The situation with Charlotte Sandow Quick is very confusing to say the least.

In July 1853 Charlotte arrived in Melbourne along with her parents and siblings aboard the 'Euphemus'. She was recorded as age 11 but in fact would have been 12 when she arrived.
In 1856 there is a record of a marriage between Nicholas PIERCE and Charlotte QUICK which is where the confusion begins. Charlotte Sandow Quick would have been just 15 at the time of this marriage so could this be another Charlotte Quick?

The one thing that seems to provide a link is that when she died in 1873 Charlotte was registered as Charlotte Sandow Pearce daughter of Nathaniel and Susanna Quick.

Adding to the confusion is the marriage in Victoria in 1870 between John Stevens Hollow and Charlotte Sandow Quick with both recorded as born St Ives. This is undoubtedly the daughter of Nathaniel and Susanna and it certainly raises doubts about the 1856 marriage.

I tried searching for some information using Google and found a reference to Charlotte Hollow being a patient at the Creswick Hospital on 6th December 1872. And then Charlotte Sandow Pearce died at Creswick 6th February 1873 age 31.

I though perhaps if I could find out something about Nicholas Pierce it might help but I am still a little confused! I have found something that appears potentially useful but there must still be doubt over all of this.

If we assume that Charlotte Sandow Quick married twice and that she was a widow at the time of the second marriage then the first thing we require is, hopefully, some record of the demise of Nicholas Pierce/Peirce/Pearce. There are a number of Nicholas Pearce (sic.) deaths registered in Victoria and it appears only one of those could possibly be the one we want.

Nicholas Pearce age 26, born Cornwall, died Victoria 1863
Father - Nicholas Pearce
Mother - Mary Anne (unknown)

A check of the 1851 Census provides us with a family of Nicholas and Mary Ann Pearce at Wendron with eldest son Nicholas age 19. This would seem to be our man.

Nicholas Pearce married Mary Ann Treloar at Wendron 5th May 1836
Nicholas son of Nicholas and Mary Ann Pearce of Halwin baptised 27th August 1837 at Wendron

Uh-Oh! - that Nicholas was still at home in Wendron with his mother in 1861 so he could not have married Charlotte! He may have arrived in Victoria after the 1861 Census but he certainly could not have married Charlotte.

So if the information in the death record is correct I can find just one other possible marriage:-

Nicholas Pearce, common seaman, married Mary Ann Roberts at Falmouth 26th May 1836
I can find no more on this couple and FreeBMD shows just two Nicholas Pearce births in Cornwall from 1837-1841. The second looks to be a son of Henry and Amelia at Breage. It does appear though that there may be some missing from the records as there is Nicholas Pearce born at Kenwyn about 1838 son of Thomas and Mary.
This last Nicholas looks like the Nicholas Pearce who died in Victoria in 1873 age 35. His parents are recorded as Thomas and Mary and his birthplace as Cornwall.

Hmm - Looks like this Nicholas married Jane Frances Floyd in 1868.

Is it possible we may be looking at a Divorce here??

Looks like I am going to have to do some more thinking on this one ....... unless someone else has the answers!

CT

[Cornish Terrier]

Well!

I have just found some more information online and this lot quotes a Death Certificate for Charlotte Sandow Pearce.

It states that Charlotte died of Pthisis at Hard Hills 6th February 1873 age 31 and was buried at Creswick 8th February 1873. Parents named as Nathaniel Quick, farmer, and Susanna Sandow. She had been in Victoria 19 years.
It then states that she was married at Geelong at age 16 to Nicholas Pearce and that there were no children.
Most importantly - the Informant was Nathaniel Quick, father.

Well that now takes care of the Nicholas Pearce marriage.

But what about John Stevens Hollow?

What I can tell you about him is that he and his brother William left for England aboard the 'Essex' in March 1873 - just a month after Charlotte died!

So why was there no mention of this marriage on the Death Certificate?
And what happened to Nicholas Pearce??

CT

[londoner]

I think you will find that John Stevens Hollow married a third time - in 1915 to Margaret Branwell Wallis who died two years before him (1923)

[Cornish Terrier]

Interesting - I had not progressed much past 1900 with the Hollow families so had not found that marriage.

Still have some earlier problems to sort out!

CT