John S. Trewhella b. about 1895

[stoulson]

I'm looking for a John S. Trewhella, probably born around 1895. He married Ellen White Rowe in 1921 in the Penzance Reg District. Ellen was born in St. Just in Penwith in 1895.

I've checked the 1901 Cenus and see a John Trewhella, b. abt 1899 to George and Sarah Trewhella of Penzance. Not sure if he is who I'm looking for.....

Any thoughts?

Thanks.....

[donne]

Have you checked FreeBMD? I did a search for Trewhella and variants in Cornwall for the period 1890 to 1901 and came up with the following:

Births Sep 1890
Trewhella John Penzance 5c 234

Births Dec 1893
Trewhella John Eudy Penzance 5c 222

Births Jun 1895
Trewella John Penzance 5c 259

Births Jun 1898
Trewhella John James Penzance 5c 250
Trewhella John James Penzance 5c 235

Births Mar 1900
Trewhela John Truro 5c 129

Births Dec 1900
Trewella John Redruth 5c 195

I see there is a birth in 1895, but they use the spelling of Trewella and there is no middle S. Could this be your man?

[donne]

By the way, I noticed that if Trewella is accepted as the spelling, there is an alternative household listed in St Just in the 1901 census as follows:

Mable Trewella age 9
Emily Trewella age 36
Esther Trewella age 8
Thomas Trewella age 11
John Trewella age 5
William Trewella age 12
Dorothy Trewella age 4

[cornishmaid]

Hi there, and a big welcome

I think Donne has found your Trewella/Trewhella family
I looked for marriages of a Trewhella to an Emily, ideally an Emily with an "S" to start her surname, and found the following:

Penzance District, March Qtr 1888, a William Thomas Trewella married an Emily SEMMENS.

This marriage took place a year before the birth of the eldest child; the oldest two children on the 1901 census are William and Thomas; and I would suggest that your John S Trewella obtained his middle name from his mother's maiden name, making his John Semmens Trewella.

It all seems to fit very nicely, but further corroboration may be necessary before I could say this is definitely the family you are looking for. However, I am 99.9% convinced

[cornishmaid]

I decided to investigate a bit further into this family and track William Thomas Trewella through the census returns. I rather wish I hadn't

The 1901 was as Donne recorded it above.

In 1891 William Trewhella, age 32 and a farm labourer was living with his wife Emily, age 24, and their 2 sons William age 2 and Thomas age 1.

In 1881 William Trewhella age 22 is residing at 35 Brigade Depot, Bodmin and is a Militia General Labourer. Place of birth is given as St Just, Cornwall.

Back to 1871 and William Thomas Trewheela, age 12, is living at Pool Field, Madron, with his mother Emily Trewheela age 29, a Widow, born in Madron. Another Emily, but not a problem. But also living with them is Jane SEMMENS, Mother, Widow, age 73, born Madron.

So, back to 1861, and William Thomas Trewheela, age 2, b. Madron, is living with father John Trewheela age 21, an Ag lab, and his mother Emily Trewheela, age 19, born Madron. Again, living with them is Jane Semmens, age 64, born Sennen. (She is listed as stepmother, but for this read mother in law.)

Doubting the fact that William Thomas Trewella and his father John could both have married women by the name of "Emily Semmens", I hunted down John's marriage.

In September Quarter of 1858, in the District of Penzance, a John Trewheele married an Emily Seemens

Will leave it there for the moment, but it would be well worth tracing back the parentage of the Emily Semmens that William Thomas Trewhella married to see if she had any connection to the Emily Semmens that his father John Trewella married ;D

[Cornish Terrier]

John Trewhella and his son William Thomas Trewhella did NOT both marry someone named Emily Semmens simply because John Trewhella and William Thomas Trewhella were NOT father and son. ;D

Well - you all seem to have been having some fun with the Trewhella family in my extended absence - and it is good to see.

About time someone else took an interest in my lot I reckon.

William Thomas Trewhella was the son of William TREWHEELA and Mary Ann (nee JAMES).

He first married Elizabeth Jane KEVERN in 1886 and had one daughter, Elizabeth Jane.

William's wife died in childbirth in 1886 at the age of 17.

William then married Emily SEMMENS at the Wesley Rock Chapel, Hea in 1888.

This was an awkward family to piece together so it has been a little amusing reading of your recent efforts given that I have already 'been there and done that'.

William Thomas Trewhella's father, William, was also married twice with William Thomas being the only child of the first marriage his mother having died less than a month after his birth.

Now here is the interesting bit - William remarried in 1863 at Pendeen to Jane THOMAS and they had a son born just a month after the marriage.
A daughter was born the following year and then the family left for South Australia before travelling across to Victoria where they settled in Geelong and where some of the family still lives.

When I say 'the family' left - I mean all the family except for young William Thomas!

In the 1871 Census I found him enumerated as William JAMES and living with his maternal grandparents.

By the way, he was a waggon driver and (need to check my notes) I believe he died from injuries after being run over by his own waggon.

When I was first in Cornwall I stayed with his grandson Jack Trewhella and his wife Kathleen for a while.

I can elaborate more on this family at a later date as I really do need some sleep.

However, the initial request on this thread was for information about John S Trewhella.

He was John Semmens Trewhella born at St Just 16th June 1895 and he was the youngest son (second youngest child) of William Thomas Trewhella and Emily (nee Semmens)

He died 21st July 1974 and had one son, Howard, who married Phyllis Oates in 1955.

Remind me please and I will check my records for the Census entry for you.

I am still missing some details on parts of this family so will be hoping that you might be able to help fill in some gaps for me.

Until later,

CT

[tenpoundpom]

Reviving an old thread...

Came across a funeral notice for John Semmens Trewhella's elder brother William Thomas Trewhella (d 23 August 1939 - age 50). Contains the names and relationships of many family members.

If anyone is interested I'll post the names and the relationshiphs, but since there are so many, I'll only do if there's some interest.

Also wondering whether this family has any identifiable links with the Towednack Trewhellas.

[Cornish Terrier]

I don't recall having seen that funeral notice so I would certainly be interested.

It may be easier to scan it and send it via email but it will depend on the quality I guess.

This particular Trewhella family traces back to the 1803 St Just marriage of Henry Trevela and Jane Grenfell and so far no link has been found to the Towednack families.
I do suspect there may be some links but after more than 30 years of trying I have been unable to find any information about Henry that would tell us just when and where he was born or who his parents might have been.
We do know that he was born sometime around 1780 (1841 Census and burial record) but that is all.

CT

[michaelhtrewhella]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one Ian.
regards
Mike

[Cornish Terrier]

And another brother , Thomas, died at the Royal Melbourne Hospital, Melbourne, Victoria 10th October 1939 at the age of 49.

CT

[tenpoundpom]

Jan 13, 2013 7:09:34 GMT -5 Cornish Terrier said:

It may be easier to scan it and send it via email but it will depend on the quality I guess.

Sent on as a pdf file. Clogging up your inbox now! (file size bigger than I reckoned for)

I do suspect there may be some links but after more than 30 years of trying I have been unable to find any information about Henry that would tell us just when and where he was born or who his parents might have been.

Maybe Matty Trewhella and the mermaid he took up with ;D ;D

[Cornish Terrier]

Maybe Matty Trewhella and the mermaid he took up with

I think they may have been just a little too old to be having children in the 1770s or 1780s!!

PDF files received and no problem with the size.

CT