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Post by calswimmer on May 5, 2008 23:18:34 GMT -5
Anyone else researching Curgenvens? I seem to have Benjamin, b. 1681 in Uny Lelant, married to Anne Uren. Going back further is a :)little complicated.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 6, 2008 10:21:20 GMT -5
Hi Calswimmer - yet another interesting problem.
Where you have run into a problem is that your Curgenven family seems to have originally been LEAN.
Benjamin LEAN m. Ann UREN 2nd February 1697 at Lelant and died about 1754-1757. Benjamin's Will was written 25th January 1754 and proved 9th May 1757.
His children, at least those that married, all used the surname of CURGENVEN.
Benjamin was the son of William LEAN who married Rachel RICHARDS at Lelant 21st September 1667.
William LEAN also left a Will proved 28th April 1690 although I have not yet sighted it.
Afraid I know little more about that part of the family except that William and Rachel apparently had nine children and the baptisms for two of those (Anne 1672 and Peter 1684) appear in the Lelant BTs.
The apparent eldest son was also a William and he married Tiberia TYACK at Lelant 23rd May 1698.
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Post by calswimmer on May 6, 2008 14:54:37 GMT -5
Thanks. :)That's right. I had looked at that once--Curgenvens being Leans and forgotten all about it. I just found out Thomas was once in Wiltshire, and that he is the one who raised Benjamin, whose parents had died. Interesting that Benjamin went by both Lean and Curgenven. Maybe Curgenven was a name the family wanted passed down.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 6, 2008 16:07:47 GMT -5
I had not gone that far into the family so did not know about Thomas being in Wiltshire either. Hmm - maybe I did know something. Just looked at the information on Thomas who I have been told was born in 1644. Appears he married Dorothy PITT at Blandford (according to IGI). But then, according to my AA of Great Britain, Blandford is in Dorset. Anyway, would appreciate any of that early information to help fill out what I do have on the family and it may possibly help with a few other areas I have looked at in the past. Might also help me to help you a little further.
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Post by calswimmer on May 6, 2008 22:40:21 GMT -5
Apparently Thomas was a minister. It looks to me that he was hardly in Cornwall. He and the Pitt family had property in Wiltshire. I don't really see how he could have raised Benjamin, who was born, married and died in Cornwall. Also it seems Benjmain married at age 16 which is not impossible, but certainly unusual. And, the supposed father of Benjamin, William, I guess it is, brother to Thomas, doesn't mention Benjamin in his will. So I think something is wrong with this picture. Well, that is usually how it goes in genealogy research!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 6, 2008 23:15:29 GMT -5
Must have been a good reason I decided to leave this lot alone for a while ... way back then. And where were they in 1662/4 - there appears to be no Lean or Curgenven names in the Hearth Tax for Lelant. And the sole member of the family in the Protestation Return of 1641 is JOHN LEAN. When you mention the Will - I guess you mean that of William Lean in 1690. I think the only Will I have seen details of for this family is that of Benjamin in 1754 so would appreciate a bit of information there if you have it. Well, a short break and then back onto the Quick family for me. If I think of anything else I will be sure and post it here. CT
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Post by calswimmer on May 7, 2008 17:20:32 GMT -5
This link has family tree and wills. members.shaw.ca/geneal05/Curgenven%20Family%20Tree/b1681.htmlI am fishing around on the internet and I think that unless I see better evidence, I have no reason to believe the Thomas Curgenven of Wiltshire was of Cornwall in any way. I think he is probably of Bedford. I don't think he raised Benjamin. How did people adopt their aliases anyway? This isn't the first case of two last names for one family. How does it come about?
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 7, 2008 18:00:49 GMT -5
Thanks Calswimmer, I will try and take a look at that site after work tonight. As for the alias names - suggest you check this Forum and you may find some sort of answer to your question. Can't remember exactly where it is just now but there is some discussion on this subject in one of the threads. Could be in Queries but if you search around you will find it. Much of the input was, I think, from Trencrom and possibly Mike and also some comments from Zenobia and myself. If you cannot find it let me know and I will do the search and let you know exactly where it is. Ian
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Post by curgenven on Mar 15, 2021 12:20:46 GMT -5
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