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Post by zibetha on Jul 25, 2017 16:00:30 GMT -5
I also find it interesting to see what "bits' of DNA one gets. I now have 9 matches with descendants of Edward Harvey and Mary Semmons. The latest is interesting because it is my first match who also shares DNA with 2 descendants of Edward's cousin Martin's line in Australia. The Aussies have Iberian ethnicity, but my US cousin does not.I have 17 known matches on the Semmons side and 4 more who are from branches I have yet to connect on the "paper trail."
Zib
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Post by zibetha on Jul 25, 2017 16:19:54 GMT -5
Besides the 11 mentioned above who all descend from William Harvey and Ann Trewhela, I have 5 matches with other descendants of Ann's parents, Thomas Trewhela and Martha Blewett, and 2 to descendants of Thomas Trewhela and Catherine Barnes.
Zib
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 25, 2017 17:30:39 GMT -5
Those matches all intrigue me but it is the connection to Thomas Trewhela and Catherine Barnes that is of most interest at the moment. I have nothing really to support any theory just yet but I do have a suspicion that this Thomas might have been a son of Matthew Trewhela and Hannath Thomas of Camborne and, therefore, another grandson of Charles Trewhela and Margery Luke.
Unfortunately when Thomas died in 1811 his age was not recorded so it can only be 'guesstimated' from his marriage in 1754. It was not necessary for a groom to be older than his bride but it may help to know that I think Catherine Barns/Barnes was baptized at St Hilary in 1722/3 to Pasco Barns and Sarah Jordan.
Can you tell me a little about the 2 connections you have please?
CT
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Post by zibetha on Jul 25, 2017 18:14:26 GMT -5
Of course. I have matches with a mother (who probably knew mine) from Iron Mountain, Michigan, and her son. They descend from Thomas "Trewhealer" Vincent (born about 1827)and his wife, Mary Jane Eustice (1836) who were both born in Perranuthnoe. I seem to have a number of connections to that area that I don't understand yet. Thomas was the son of Charles Vincent (2nd husband) and Jennifer/Jane Trewhella 1787 St Erth whose parents were Matthew Trewhella and Catherine Roberts. There is a possible Symons/Semmons connection-- Mary Jane's mother was Thomasine Symons (born abt 1813 Perranuthnoe) whom I think was the daughter of Thomas Symons and Thomasine Rowe.
Zib
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 26, 2017 5:13:42 GMT -5
Hmmm - not much help with the Trewhela side as yet but the picture is still building. I agree with you on Thomasine Symons - she was baptized at Perranuthnoe 14th July 1811 daughter of Thomas and Tamasine Symons. Her husband George Eustis was born at Crowan 9th September and baptized 22nd September 1811 son of William Eustis and his wife Ann Williams who married at Crowan in 1805.
I had not previously searched for any marriage for Thomas Trewheela Vincent but have now updated my database to reflect that along with the above.
CT
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Post by zibetha on Jul 26, 2017 6:43:05 GMT -5
Crowan is definitely my Cornish neighborhood. The DNA trail is fascinating. Zib
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Post by zibetha on Aug 22, 2017 7:33:31 GMT -5
This month, 5 more of my Harvey/Semmons relatives' have shown up as DNA matches to me on Ancestry.com. Four are descendants of Edward Harvey Jr's brother, George, who moved from Michigan to Minnesota. The other descends from their sister, Mary, and also matches descendants of Martin Harvey (grandson of Ann Trewhela and William Harvey) & Eda Cock in Australia. So far, only me and two of Mary's descendants share DNA with the "Aussies." One has Semmons matches; the other does not. I find it fascinating because it is so unpredictable.
Zib
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Post by myghaelangof on Dec 5, 2017 19:17:46 GMT -5
Apologies I havent been part of this thread since I started it earlier in the year. However the dna results have inundated me with research, but I am getting near the point where I can relate my journey to you all. It is going to be an onward journey especially as I am getting my Aunt in St.Just tested next week. Most of my findings have been expected, though several large groups of matches are still a mystery. As yet I havent resolved any of my brickwalls, but not so easy finding something when you dont know what yoy're looking for! It certain is an enthralling experience, much enhanced by all the help on here. Watch this space as they say. Best wishes to all, Mike
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Post by zibetha on Dec 30, 2017 14:04:21 GMT -5
I just spoke on the phone with another descendant of my great-grandfather's family (Swiss - English - Colonial USA) I am so entranced with my DNA test results. She just responded to a message I sent a year ago. Good things come to those who wait. Happy New Year in advance to all my cousins with links to Cornwall--
Zib
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Post by rogerC41 on Aug 9, 2018 19:37:12 GMT -5
Most of the preceding is about otDNA. To my amazement based on OtDNA though I turn up many 2nd and 3rd cousins from mum's family on Gedmatch and Ancestry I find far fewer on Dad's (Curnow) line and zero actually named CURNOW. So feeling rich one day I had Y-DNA test on Family TreeFinder. Here I found a couple of Curnows. We are all descendants from Thomas (d.1643) and I was surprised to find the "genetic distance" amongst us was 1,2 or 3 depending on the pair. I thought Y-DNA changed more slowly than that. It seems to me that Y-DNA would be very useful for jumping breaks in direct ancestor lines even as few as 5 generations back. Hence, I am searching for any other Curnow who has Y-DNA test results. Is there a site I haven't found where people compare Y-DNA independently of the testing company?
If I could find a Curnow descended from John (b. 1584? St Martin in Meneage) who has Y-DNA results we could go a long way towards confirming that Thomas (d.1643, Towednack) is the same person as Thomas (b.1588 St Keverne).
I am putting a similar post to this under the Thomas (d.1643) thread under CURNOW on the family branch of the board.
roger
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 10, 2018 5:49:44 GMT -5
Roger, I will respond to your post under the Curnow thread which is the more appropriate place in this instance.
CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 28, 2018 20:00:16 GMT -5
Well, my cousin's Y-DNA results are finally in! But most interesting is that on the 111 marker there is an 85.19% chance of us having a common ancestor within four generations. That percentage gradually decreases to a little over 37% on the 12-marker. What is interesting and, perhaps, confusing about that is that his grandfather and my great-grandfather were brothers! Based on that I would have though the percentage would have been 100% on all markers 12 thru 111. CT
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Post by Glazin2018 on Sept 28, 2018 20:23:42 GMT -5
CT Look at it this way - for every additional marker that is the same between you and your cousin the chance increases... the way to increase from 85.19% is to have additional identical markers over and above the 111 that you have had done.... consider each marker as an additional piece of evidence ... 100% comes when all your markers match
If it was the way you said.. everybody with 12 identical markers would have a common ancestor with you within four generations.. but that is not the case....
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 28, 2018 21:25:01 GMT -5
Hmm … I guess I'll get the hang of this one of these days! Anyway, we now have Y-DNA 111 results in for four of us with three easily documented to a common ancestor. The 'wildcard' in the bunch is a descendant of the brother of John Trewheellar who went to Russia about 1815 and based on reconstructions of families up to now he is the representative of most of the other known branches. My research shows they are all most likely descended from one source marriage in 1686 and the DNA results show that we also have a match some distance further back on that line. The task now will be to start filling in the gaps and joining the dots so hopefully we can get at least a couple more males involved with, hopefully, at least one known male descendant of Henry Trevela and Jane Grenfell! CT
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Post by zibetha on Nov 18, 2018 15:39:44 GMT -5
After accidentally creating a 2nd account for myself with my mtDNA kit order at Family Tree DNA (test in progress) I have re-uploaded my Ancestry DNA test and find I have 4 DNA matches within the Cornwall project. I did not see that previously, but I guess that is why I remain a member of the project. You can upload a test from many companies for free.
The matches I can identify at Family Tree DNA have so far been known family members but also a cousin of my mother's and her sibling and descendants. It also gave me a 3rd cousin once removed on the Sampson side of the family who I couldn't figure out from our Gedmatch link.
If you go go the DNA testing route, I would say try all avenues that are free. My father's side is not English, but I am finally getting matches there, too.
Zib
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