Very Interested: Quick Family in Zennor, St. Ives, Towednack

[dps]

Hello,

Anyone that can help me find information wherein I can make an accurate connection with my Quick forebears, I would be greatly appreciative.

John Thomas Quick, my 4th grandfather who married Elizabeth Clise (Klietz), has arguable birth dates and locations.  If he is Pvt. John Thomas Quick, born in Virginia Colony, who fought in the American Revolution, then he lived from 1763-1831; this is substantiated by the will of said John Thomas.  However, other sources state that the John Thomas Quick in question lived from 1730-1831 and was born in Waterfort (probably Waterford, Ireland or possibly Waterford, New Jersey), in which he would have lived to be 101 years old (unlikely, to say the least).  The preponderance of sources all state that his parents were John Quick  (abt 1653-1732) from Zennor, Cornwall and Jane Morrish (1666-1736); they married in Gulval in April of 1680.  It's impossible that they could be the parents of John Thomas who fought in the American Revolution and as for the Thomas' birth date being 1730, it would still make Jane giving birth at age 64, another huge stretch.  As I firmly believe from all the evidence that John Quicke and Jane Morrish are indeed my direct ancestors, I just need to find the connection to John Thomas, my grandfather.  It is likely that there are at least one or two ancestors in between John Quicke born 1653 and John Thomas Quick born either 1730 (and especially if born in 1763) unaccounted for.

I've located many of the descendants of John Quicke and Jane Morrish, including John Quick and wife Ann Vibert; I don't know if these could be the missing parents, as I cannot find a child of theirs who could be the possible parent.  If anyone can give me helpful information, I'd be ecstatic.  I've long been enamored of Cornwall and plan to visit this May.  How wonderful if I knew for certain of authentic roots.  Thanks so much.

Dianne

[dps]

Mar 15, 2017 15:07:39 GMT -5 dps said:

Hello,

IF anyone can help me find information so that I can make an accurate connection to my Quick forebears in Cornwall, I would be greatly appreciative!  I'm an American, born to a mother with 100% Irish heritage; as for my dad, the lion's share of his roots go back to Merry Ol' England, Wales, and Scotland (all of which make me very happy).  As I've hit a dead end with my Irish ancestry, I've been zealously pursuing my Anglo-Celtic roots for the past year-and-a half and have been highly successful -- except when it comes to the Quicks.

John Thomas Quick is my 4th grandfather (DNA-authenticated), father of two of my great-grandparents, Joshua and Thomas.  However, the date of birth and of location of John Thomas are in dispute.  Most sources indicate that he was born in 1763 (and died in 1831) in the then-British colony of Virginia, a soldier who married Elizabeth Clise (Klietz).  If this identity is correct, he would be Pvt. John Thomas Quick, who fought in the American Revolution; vital information is substantiated by the will of said John Thomas.  However, other sources state that the father of both Joshua and Thomas Quick, my great-grandfathers is a John Thomas Quick who lived from 1730-1831 (and was probably married to Sarah "Sally" Irene Clise) and that he was perhaps born in Waterfort (probably Waterford, Ireland or possibly Waterford, New Jersey; no official proof of either).  If this is the correct John Thomas, he would have lived to be 101 years old ! (unlikely, to say the least).  The preponderance of sources states that the parents of either John Thomas were John Quicke (abt 1653-1732) from Zennor, Cornwall, and Jane Morrish (1666-1736), who married in Gulval in April of 1680.  It's impossible, however, that they could be the parents of first-mentioned "John Thomas" who fought in the American Revolution, and as for the John Thomas whose birth date is 1730 -- it would still make Jane giving birth at age 64, another huge stretch.  As I firmly believe from all the evidence that John Quicke and Jane Morrish are indeed my direct ancestors, I just need to find the connection to John Thomas, my grandfather.  And will the real John Thomas stand up? It is likely that there are at least one or two ancestors in between the John Quicke who born in 1653 and the John Thomas Quick born in 1730 (and especially if he's the one born in 1763) which are unaccounted for.  Incidentally, through my brother's extensive Y-DNA testing, we've discovered another individual who took the test through familytreedna that is nearly an exact DNA-match; the most distant ancestor of this match happens to have been born in Cornwall (with the surname Nankivell), so we conclusively believe that we have roots there.

Also, I've located many of the descendants of John Quicke and Jane Morrish, including John Quick and wife Ann Vibert; I don't know if these could be the missing parents or grandparents, but  I cannot find a child of theirs who could be the possible parent.  If anyone can give me helpful information or guide me to very helpful resources or websites, I'd be ecstatic.  I've been enamored with Cornwall since I was a child (am an avid reader and lover of history, particularly British) and plan to visit the Cornish coast and much of the entire UK this May. How wonderful if I knew for certain of specific landmarks of my Cornish roots and could retrace their steps and imagine their dreams.  Thanks so much!

DPS

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Dianne and Welcome to the site.

From the information you have supplied I can see no possible way there could be a connection to the Quicks of Zennor or even to West Cornwall. Over many years I have managed to piece together the families of most Cornish Quicks and even though there are still a few that are unaccounted for there are none who might provide any sort of link to your John Thomas Quick.

I understand that you have some confusion about the information for John Thomas Quick and I suspect some of that information came from online family trees. But the conflicting dates suggest the possibility that there are two generations involved, possibly father and son.
The mention of Waterford is interesting and it may be meant to be Waterford, New Jersey. But if the origins are Irish then there were certainly Quicks in Ireland at the time. I do have two Quick families in Ireland, probably brothers, who 'may' link back to the Zennor family but even the little information I have found on them shows no possible link to your John Thomas Quick.

I have seen records of Quicks I the USA from very early times and I would suggest that if they did originate in England then it was not Cornwall. Quicks can be found in Devon and other parts of England much earlier than the first known family in Cornwall.

CT