Post by sue on Aug 28, 2016 14:14:41 GMT -5
A Curnow loose-end I would appreciate some super-sleuth help in resolving, please......
My GGfather Curnow had a set of 9 Curnow cousins born 1845 onwards to parents James Curnow 22 May 1818 Towednack & Jane Russell 17 March 1822 St Buryan, who married 10 February 1844 in Gulval.
I know what happened to nearly all these 9 cousins, including the 3 boys making good in California.
What I would like to resolve here is Who is the Mother of Nellie Edith Roberts Curnow, daughter of James Curnow & Jane Russell's son Robert Curnow 1855?
Nellie was the daughter of Robert R(ussell) Curnow – 7th child of James Curnow & Jane Russell - he a mine engineer born 26 April 1855 (baptized 6 April 1862 Gulval) who went to the U.S. in 1873, is enumerated as a single 25 year old miner 1880 in California; married 26 October 1891 in San Francisco (he of San Jose) per San Francisco Call to Elizabeth A Pryor born Pennsylvania and duly had a daughter 26 January 1892 Charlotte Grace Curnow.
It is not daughter Charlotte Grace (Lottie) I am concerned with; she went on to marry Russell Henry Pearce in 1917 California etc.
I am curious to know the provenance of the previous daughter, Nellie Edith Roberts Curnow who marries in Santa Clara California 1913 to Joseph William Hyde (died 1 March 1936 buried Quebec, as is wife), and dies in Vancouver Canada 12 August 1974 as an 88 year-old widow. (Death certificate image available on Family Search.) The informant is her son F.R. Hyde, who provides the information of her birth 20 April 1886 San Jose California to father Robert Curnow & mother name not known born Cornwall. At least, I believe this Nellie marrying in 1913 & dying 1974 to be the daughter of Robert R Curnow 1855 Gulval, not the daughter of a different Robert Curnow. Santa Clara was where Robert R Curnow eventually died and where his brother was established, and there is further evidence per below.
In 1896 Nellie age 8 can be found in Passenger Arrivals Natal to Southampton with sister Lottie age 4 & apparent mother Elizabeth Curnow (Pryor) – I know that father Robert Curnow spent a lot of time in South Africa as a mine manager from newspaper reports, ships' manifestos etc.
In 1901 census Nellie Lottie & Elizabeth are in Penzance England.
7 October 1906 has Nellie age 20, Lottie age 13 & mother Elizabeth arriving New York from Southampton.
I don't think I found the 2 girls in 1910 U.S., in which case I imagine they were in South Africa with father Robert. I do have their mother Elizabeth 5 May 1910 arriving New York from South Africa with orphaned niece-of-her-husband Mabel Fanny Curnow 1897, to whom Elizabeth aunt-by-marriage has been guardian since 1907.
Now, Nellie marries 1913 and Lottie in 1917 both in Santa Clara. By 1920 Robert Curnow mine manager age 59 & wife Elizabeth are enumerated in San Jose Santa Clara & again in 1930, with Robert dying there 1937.
But although Nellie is declared as daughter to Elizabeth in 1901 England census, she was born in 1886 San Jose to father Robert Curnow when he was 31 years old, some 5 years before he married Elizabeth Pryor.
So, who is Nellie's mother? (Not I think Elizabeth Pryor.) Did Robert ever marry Nellie's mother? Per Nellie's 1974 death certificate, her son didn't seem to know her name, only that she – his maternal grandmother - was born in Cornwall. Nellie Edith Roberts Curnow........ Perhaps it's obvious, but not to me!
Sue
My GGfather Curnow had a set of 9 Curnow cousins born 1845 onwards to parents James Curnow 22 May 1818 Towednack & Jane Russell 17 March 1822 St Buryan, who married 10 February 1844 in Gulval.
I know what happened to nearly all these 9 cousins, including the 3 boys making good in California.
What I would like to resolve here is Who is the Mother of Nellie Edith Roberts Curnow, daughter of James Curnow & Jane Russell's son Robert Curnow 1855?
Nellie was the daughter of Robert R(ussell) Curnow – 7th child of James Curnow & Jane Russell - he a mine engineer born 26 April 1855 (baptized 6 April 1862 Gulval) who went to the U.S. in 1873, is enumerated as a single 25 year old miner 1880 in California; married 26 October 1891 in San Francisco (he of San Jose) per San Francisco Call to Elizabeth A Pryor born Pennsylvania and duly had a daughter 26 January 1892 Charlotte Grace Curnow.
It is not daughter Charlotte Grace (Lottie) I am concerned with; she went on to marry Russell Henry Pearce in 1917 California etc.
I am curious to know the provenance of the previous daughter, Nellie Edith Roberts Curnow who marries in Santa Clara California 1913 to Joseph William Hyde (died 1 March 1936 buried Quebec, as is wife), and dies in Vancouver Canada 12 August 1974 as an 88 year-old widow. (Death certificate image available on Family Search.) The informant is her son F.R. Hyde, who provides the information of her birth 20 April 1886 San Jose California to father Robert Curnow & mother name not known born Cornwall. At least, I believe this Nellie marrying in 1913 & dying 1974 to be the daughter of Robert R Curnow 1855 Gulval, not the daughter of a different Robert Curnow. Santa Clara was where Robert R Curnow eventually died and where his brother was established, and there is further evidence per below.
In 1896 Nellie age 8 can be found in Passenger Arrivals Natal to Southampton with sister Lottie age 4 & apparent mother Elizabeth Curnow (Pryor) – I know that father Robert Curnow spent a lot of time in South Africa as a mine manager from newspaper reports, ships' manifestos etc.
In 1901 census Nellie Lottie & Elizabeth are in Penzance England.
7 October 1906 has Nellie age 20, Lottie age 13 & mother Elizabeth arriving New York from Southampton.
I don't think I found the 2 girls in 1910 U.S., in which case I imagine they were in South Africa with father Robert. I do have their mother Elizabeth 5 May 1910 arriving New York from South Africa with orphaned niece-of-her-husband Mabel Fanny Curnow 1897, to whom Elizabeth aunt-by-marriage has been guardian since 1907.
Now, Nellie marries 1913 and Lottie in 1917 both in Santa Clara. By 1920 Robert Curnow mine manager age 59 & wife Elizabeth are enumerated in San Jose Santa Clara & again in 1930, with Robert dying there 1937.
But although Nellie is declared as daughter to Elizabeth in 1901 England census, she was born in 1886 San Jose to father Robert Curnow when he was 31 years old, some 5 years before he married Elizabeth Pryor.
So, who is Nellie's mother? (Not I think Elizabeth Pryor.) Did Robert ever marry Nellie's mother? Per Nellie's 1974 death certificate, her son didn't seem to know her name, only that she – his maternal grandmother - was born in Cornwall. Nellie Edith Roberts Curnow........ Perhaps it's obvious, but not to me!
Sue