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Post by Sarch on Jun 12, 2015 12:52:09 GMT -5
I am looking for the parents of both
Frederick Stevens Wallis and Loveday Nance They may have been born in St Ives between about 1790 - 1796 but I am not sure about this. I have not found a baptism for either of them. OPC marriage record 04 Oct 1814 St Ives married by Licence Groom Frederick Stevens Wallis, of this parish, Profession Gentleman Bride Loveday Nance, of this parish, spinster Witnesses Jno Paynter and Edw Richards These are all the children that I could find Baptised in Calstock born to Frederick Stevens Wallis and mother Loveday Fanny Stevens 1815 Frederick baptised 1818 his other two names do not seem to be clear Frederick (Pointz? Stanley?) Wallis or Harley? Elizabeth Courtney 1820 Augusta Nicoles 1822 Herbert Stanley 1824 Louisa Stanley 1826 The family move to Guernsey and have two more children Saumerez born about 1830 - 1831 and Catherina born about 1829 - 1833 Gazette notice of a commission signed by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Cornwall Frederic Stevens Wallis, Esq. to be Deputy Lieutenant dated 12 March 1822, Alfred Charles Clapin married Catherine Martha Suamerez Wallis 1 Aug 1861 St Pancras, Father Frederick Stevens Wallis Dead. Witnesses Fredrick Poyn?? Wallis (Second name still not clear  ) and Augustine N Wallis (Catherine's brother and Sister) I have found a death record on Free BMD for a Frederick Stevens Wallis died 1861 Islington Can anyone help? Regards Sarch
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Post by sue on Jun 12, 2015 13:25:52 GMT -5
I think you have the family in 1841, 1851, 1861. This might help: there is a will transcribed on OPC for Thomas Wallis, 1818 Calstock, which names son Frederick Stevens Wallis and wife Frances...... would that give you Thomas & Frances as parents for Frederick Stevens Wallis?  Which leads to the marriage of Thomas Wallis & Frances Stevens in St Ives 1789. Oh, and Frederick & Loveday's son Fredrick Pointz Stanley Wallis is also named... as is Loveday, as are daughters Frances & Patty. I must say, this will has some nice touches! Sue |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 13, 2015 1:05:34 GMT -5
And I can add the following:-
The eldest son is Frederick Pointz Stanley Wallis (Frederick Poyntz Wallis died June Qtr 1882 Islington R.D. age 64)
Frederick Stevens Wallis of 41 Richmond Road Islington age 70 was buried 26th April 1861 North London Cemetery Company's North London or Kentish Town and Highgate Cemetery of Saint James, Swain's Lane, St Pancras.
Loveday Wallis of 17 Argyle Square Euston Road St Pancras age 76 was buried 5th August 1867 North London Cemetery Ceompany's North London or Kentish Town and Highgate Cemetery of Saint James, Swain's Lane, St Pancras
CT
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Post by Sarch on Jun 13, 2015 1:58:49 GMT -5
Thanks for your help Sue the Will had so much information Thanks CT Could the Thomas Wallis of Calstock be the son of Nicholas Wallis/Wallish and Ann Hoskin m 24 Sep 1743 in Madron? I have them in my database but without children? Sarch |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 13, 2015 6:52:13 GMT -5
Sarch - if you check the details of his death/burial you will find that Thomas Wallis was age 66 when he died in 1918. As he was buried in January (and relying on accuracy of his age) then he was most likely born in 1752 so yes, I guess it would be a possibility.
There was a Thomas son of Mr Nicholas Thomas baptized at Madron in 1753 who 'could' be him. In fact Nicholas (or Mr Nicholas) Wallis had 9 children baptized at Madron from 1744 to 1759.
I think your best bet would be to try and follow up on possible burials and marriages for the other children of Nicholas Wallis as well as possible deaths/burials for Nicholas and Ann. (Also check for a Will for Nicholas Wallis.) You might find something that could help link the family with Thomas.
CT
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Post by Sarch on Jun 13, 2015 7:03:25 GMT -5
Thanks CT will have a look and see if I can find a will or two
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Post by sue on Jun 13, 2015 7:15:06 GMT -5
Interesting that the Gazeteer of Cornwall published in 1817 already (prior to Thomas Wallis' death) referred to "Calstock....Sandhill House, the seat of F.S. Wallis Esq". Does this have implications?
As to Loveday, I reckon she was perhaps baptized 18 July 1790 St Ives as Jenny, to John Nance & his wife Loveday, formerly Skinner.
John & Loveday have Martha 1787, Jenny 1790, Joan 1792, John 1796.
I don't readily see a burial or marriage for Jenny Nance; and the birth year of 1790 St Ives is an exact fit for the 1861 census declaration..... for Mrs Loveday Wallis...
Sue
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Post by Sarch on Jun 14, 2015 2:50:50 GMT -5
Hi Sue 
I also think that Jenny daughter of John Nance and Loveday Skinner may be the Loveday Nance I am looking for
I have tried looking for nicknames for Loveday as well as some people go through life and are buried with their nickname even appearing on the gravestone
Frederick Stevens Wallis was the son of Thomas Wallis and Frances Stevens married 19 Oct 1789 St Ives
Frederick Stevens Wallis was a Justice of the Peace was on the Circuit at Lostwithiel 12 July 1825
1851 Frederick S Wallis aged 60 Colonel, a Magistrate, Deputy Lieut & special Warden for Cornwall
Commissions - signed by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Cornwall.
Frederic Stevens Wallis,, Esq. to be Deputy Lieutenant.
:Dated 12 March 1822.
www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/17824/page/955/data.pdf
In Thomas Wallis' Will
Nicholas Wallis Penrose baptised 21 Nov 1773 Madron son of William Penrose
William Penrose of Penzance married Ann Wallis of Madron on 26 April 1771 in Madron
Thomas Wallis' Will
John Wallis the younger (Revd. John Wallis 1789 - 1866 vicar and mayor of Bodmin) Compiled the Cornwall Registers and Bodmin Registers
Revd. John Wallis was the son of John & Issabella Wallis in Bodmin - John Wallis Attorney married Isabella Mary Sloggett 29 Jun 1788 in Bodmin
The siblings of John Wallis are mentioned here on page 64
www.bodminmoor.co.uk/blislandboundarystones/pdfdialup/Chapter11.pdf
John had a Twin - Henry (Capt Henry Wallis died Madras 15 Regt. N.I.)
I can't find a Baptism for John & Henry (twins)  but can find 9 other baptisms for John and Issabella Wallis in Bodmin
1790 Christopher
1792 Issabella Mary
1793 Ann Julia
1796 Mary Harris
1798 Frances
1801 Christopher
1806 Isabella Mary
1808 Preston
1808 Louisa (married William Morshead)
John Wallis Attorney
"John Wallis was the son of Nicholas Wallis of Maddern
(Madron parish near Penzance) who settled in Bodmin in 1783. Wallis succeeded
George Browne, attorney at law to his business in Bodmin"
www.bodminmoor.co.uk/blislandboundarystones/pdfdialup/Chapter11.pdf
Nicholas Wallis Mr. had the following children baptised in Madron
1746 Nicholas
1749 Anne
1751 Mary
1753 Thomas (Thomas Wallis of Calstock was born 1753)
1755 Elizabeth
1757 Joseph
1758 Jane
1759 John (John Wallis Attorney died aged 82 Bodmin in 1842) 1841 census John Wallis Attorney aged 82
There are children of John and Anne mentioned in Thomas Wallis' Will so for Thomas, Ann and John there is a possiblilty that they are children of Mr Nicholas Wallis
Sarch
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Post by sue on Jun 14, 2015 4:24:43 GMT -5
Well, Henry Wallis son of Mr Jno & Mrs Isabella baptized 9 March 1790 Bodmin per OPC. Jno Wallis son of Mr Jno & Mrs Isabella baptized 9 March 1790 Bodmin per OPC. Christopher Wallis son of Mr John & Mrs Isabella baptized 24 Jun 1790 Bodmin per OPC. Busy time! Sue |
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Post by Sarch on Jun 14, 2015 5:10:25 GMT -5
thanks Sue
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Post by londoner on Jun 14, 2015 5:39:13 GMT -5
After the death of Thomas, Frances Wallis married the Rev Robert Peter at Calstock in 1820. He died in 1822 was buried at Mawnan, and mentions Frances in his (lengthy) will. I have been unable to find a record of her death.
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) and Augustine N Wallis (Catherine's brother and Sister)
but can find 9 other baptisms for John and Issabella Wallis in Bodmin