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Jul 25, 2010 12:33:36 GMT -5
Post by Sarch on Jul 25, 2010 12:33:36 GMT -5
Hi Graham I suggest you try outbound passenger lists from the UK the list keeping on that side seems to be more efficient. I don't have a URL but someone on the Penwith board might.Try the church in Arcadia Pretoria to perhaps see if there is a record of the son who died as a baby. He may have died in Pretoria. The Church is also on Facebook Tel +27 124392469 Address Christ Church Arcadia, 820 Pretorius St., Arcadia, Pretoria, South Africa, 0083 First port of call sailing down the West Coast of Africa would be Cape Town so the Cape Archives in Cape Town might have something. They are on the National Archives Page when you search KAB www.national.archives.gov.za/In the early 1900's the "black" people of South Africa wore very few clothes, and were mostly in "traditional dress". I as a child in the 1950's can still remember some women going bare breasted in the streets. Just think how victorian women would feel about this!! ;D ;D ;D Never mind grown men in little more than loin cloths/animal skins. I imagine that it was a bit of a culture shock to Victorian British women more than outright racism. Just think how they dressed in all those petticoats and a corset ;D etc. Sarch
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Jul 25, 2010 14:20:06 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 25, 2010 14:20:06 GMT -5
Here is the link:- www.ancestorsonboard.com/HomePageController.actionThis is a subscription site so payment is required to view any results. But the downside in this case is that it only covers the period beginning 1890 which is probably just a fraction late for this particular case. I have had a look for Richard Edwards and between 1890 and 1920 there were only three. The first two look like possibly being the same person. Rd Edwards born 1857 travelled from Plymouth to South africa in 1895 - destination port Cape. Richard Edwards born 1857 travelled from Plymouth to South Africa in 1895 - destination port Capte. Richard Edwards born 1860 travelled from Plymouth to South Africa in 1903 - destination port Cape. There are then 54 records incorporating the initial 'R' but there are none whose birth is nearer 1880 than six years. This is suggesting to me once again that it is more likely the whole family left England as a group. There is an option to sign up for a 14-day Free Trial that might be worth considering. CT
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Aug 13, 2010 9:38:35 GMT -5
Post by graham on Aug 13, 2010 9:38:35 GMT -5
Dear CT & Sarch,
I am most disappointed because I have just spent over an hour replying to your comments and also covering the different aspects of the Edwards and intermarriaged names like Uren, Hosking, Triggs and Tonkin.
Then, in a blink it was gone.
This has happened before and so, on previous occasions, I just tried to remember again and re-write what I had said.
Sorry, but not this time.
I don't mean to sound critical, but the programme should be as good as the people who want to use it, like you and your regular CT supporters.
Regards, Graham
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Aug 13, 2010 11:19:13 GMT -5
Post by Sarch on Aug 13, 2010 11:19:13 GMT -5
Hi Graham If you are having trouble with this program - type what you want to say in another program and just copy and paste it across orType a little and then Post Reply - you can then modify what you have just posted by clicking on the Modify option on the top right hand corner of your recent posting. Add more information and then hit Modify Post and you will have updated your posting Hope this helps Sarch
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Aug 14, 2010 1:10:33 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 14, 2010 1:10:33 GMT -5
Hi Graham - I have had this problem on many occasions ....... and usually with large posts that I have spent a lot of time on. I don't know what causes it but I know it is extremely frustrating. As Sarch has said - the easiest way around it is to produce your post in sections and hit 'Post Reply' regularly. This acts like a 'Save' function although the information is immediately viewable. But then just hit the 'Modify Post' button within that particular message and add the next part and hit 'Post Reply' again. Continue this until finished and you should be okay. I don't know exactly where the problem lies but this is purely a Message Board hosted by ProBoards. It therefore is not technically a Program. The other option Sarch has suggested also works and in some ways might be easier. Just type up what you want to say in (e.g.) Word and then copy/paste it into your message here. I will see if I might be able to find a solution to the problem. CT
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Aug 14, 2010 1:18:48 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 14, 2010 1:18:48 GMT -5
Graham - I can see no immediate way to contact ProBoards so have sent an email to one of our Administrators who was involved with the actual setup of this forum.
Hopefully he might be able to find a solution to the problem.
CT
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Aug 14, 2010 3:10:03 GMT -5
Post by marychown on Aug 14, 2010 3:10:03 GMT -5
Hi Graham - I have had this problem on many occasions ....... and usually with large posts that I have spent a lot of time on. I don't know what causes it but I know it is extremely frustrating. As Sarch has said - the easiest way around it is to produce your post in sections and hit 'Post Reply' regularly. This acts like a 'Save' function although the information is immediately viewable. But then just hit the 'Modify Post' button within that particular message and add the next part and hit 'Post Reply' again. Continue this until finished and you should be okay. I don't know exactly where the problem lies but this is purely a Message Board hosted by ProBoards. It therefore is not technically a Program. The other option Sarch has suggested also works and in some ways might be easier. Just type up what you want to say in (e.g.) Word and then copy/paste it into your message here. I will see if I might be able to find a solution to the problem. CT Many thanks for the tip on how to overcome this problem. I have also encountered this problem in the past and have had to work out another way of getting around it which has worked. I write my whole message into the Post Reply section. Then before I send it, I highlight and copy what I've written. I open a 'write email' and paste my whole text to an email as backup. I then post my reply to the proboard as normal and - should my reply not get through to the proboard - I then access the reply section again, copy the text of my unsent email and paste the text to the reply section and resend my message to the pro board. I still have my email with the whole text as backup should my message not appear on the proboard again. I know the procedure sounds long winded, but it does work. Mary
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Aug 19, 2010 2:20:28 GMT -5
Post by graham on Aug 19, 2010 2:20:28 GMT -5
Dear CT, Sarch and Mary,
Thank you for sharing with me your own difficulties and possible ways of overcoming the risks of losing information when posting messages on the site. I will try the “copy and paste approach;” I think I will feel more comfortable with this, especially when making any necessary corrections and also for transferring material that I have on other programmes on my computer. Up until now I have only been using the “Quick Reply” which I think is a bit like looking through the visor of a tank while trying to find a car park!
Maybe there could be some simple suggestions or links on the home page to help people and encourage people when using the programme (or have I missed smoething)?
For me I have been learning as I go, which hasn’t always been easy. Regards for now, Graham
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Aug 19, 2010 6:56:37 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 19, 2010 6:56:37 GMT -5
Graham - I had problems with the Quick Reply box right from the start so have not used it for a couple of years. The one thing that really is missing here is a 'Save' function but I have never been able to find one. The Help function seems less than adequate in that regard. CT
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Nov 11, 2012 23:02:09 GMT -5
Post by graham on Nov 11, 2012 23:02:09 GMT -5
I would like to share a major break through with you re Thomas Edwards and Ann Tonkin.
Earlier this year, out of the blue, I was contacted by an unknown and very distant relative, (Sharon), who had read the proboards discussion, above, about my search for the lost parents and siblings of my grandfather, Richard Edwards, born in Gulval in 1881. Apart from Richard, they just seem to have disappeared after the 1881 census. It had been suggested by Cornish Terrier that the whole family had left Cornwall and gone (to Pretoria) but that didn't seem to fit. However, I had been told that Richard had left Cornwall for South Africa and from there, after a few years, moved on to Adelaide, before finally ending up in Sydney. The new source of information proved Cornish Terrier to be correct all along! Thomas Edwards and Ann (nee Tonkin) and all of their children moved to Port Adelaide not long after the 1881 Census. So Richard’s departure to Pretoria was from South Australia, not Cornwall, as I had been led to believe. The children grew up and married into other families: Annie Edwards m Herbert Reid 1893 Adelaide Richard Edwards b 1869 d 1878 Trevarrack Bessie Edwards m William Peacock 1893 Port Adelaide Minnie Edwards m George Gray Grandison 1891 Adelaide Jane Tonkin Edwards m William Arthur Thomson 1891 Adelaide Thomas Tonkin Edwards m Florence Haywood 1895 Port Adelaide Alice Edwards m William McKean 1894 Port Adelaide Richard Edwards m Ruth Howse 1908 Pretoria (my grandparents) James Potoria Edwards b 14 Jul 1882 Port Adelaide d Jan 1883 Port Adelaide Beatrice Jeffery Edwards b 30 Mar 1886 Port Adelaide m Ernest John Mason 1913
The real irony is that I have lived in Adelaide for most of my life and many times have driven past the Cheltenham Cemetery, where it now turns out my great grandparents, Thomas and Ann are buried! As I said to my mother and sister, the answer was right in our own back yard!
Thank you to Cornish Terrier whose explanations as to why the family was missing from the 1891 Census, proved to be right after all and to others who have helped, as well as this website, which provided an avenue for Sharon, who was looking for my grandfather, Richard Edwards and who was then able to contact me.
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Nov 12, 2012 2:53:48 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 12, 2012 2:53:48 GMT -5
Graham - that is absolutely extraordinary news! And I am very pleased that this site and myself were able to play such a part in events that have led to your contact with Sharon and the answer you were seeking. I hope we will be able to help you further as you explore other branches of your family. CT
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Nov 12, 2012 18:33:12 GMT -5
Post by graham on Nov 12, 2012 18:33:12 GMT -5
Dear CT, Yes there's plenty more out there, and this recent development has raised more questions eg. Did Thomas and Ann have contacts in South Australia before they left Gulval? I wouldn't be surprised if they knew of other Edwards and/or Tonkins, as there were plenty around. I do know that Thomas worked in his old job as a miller at a mill in Port Adelaide owned by William Thomas born 1838 in Penzance! The mill is still operating and owned by Weston Milling. SA seems to have limited online resources but I found these helpful: www.genealogysa.org.au/ (then click under online data base research) www.aca.sa.gov.au/and also Trove: trove.nla.gov.au/newspaperRegards, Graham
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Nov 12, 2012 21:45:02 GMT -5
Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 12, 2012 21:45:02 GMT -5
Many thanks Graham - I have used Trove but was not aware of the other sites. If I get some time later tonight I will check those out. CT
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