Cornish for Windmill?

[HeatherC]

Would appreciate if anybody could tell me the Cornish word for windmill please....... and/or possibly a Cornish surname which came from the word for windmill?
Best regards
HeatheC

[Cornish Terrier]

Well - the Cornish word for 'wind' appears to be 'gwyns' and the word for 'mill' appears to be 'melyn' so ....

[tonymitch]

Don't forget the word order could be different. It may work out MILL - WIND. So try 'Melyngwynt' Also, I think 'Melyn' = 'Yellow'

[Mal]

I have a surname way back in my tree---

Vellanoweth, alternatively Mellanoweth and Vellanoweth - these derive from the Cornish "New Mill"

[HeatherC]

Thanks for that CT and tonymitch

Have found out that as tonymitch says it's millwind in Cornish so Melyngwynt.

Best regards
HeatherC

[Cornish Terrier]

Well ... I was nearly right! ;D

Great teamwork Tony.

[Mal]

Be careful with the word mill, just a thought but we have a windmill, or "Dutch type" flour mill/water pump- not very frequent in Cornwall and also a whater wheel or mill, I believe more typical and perhaps a mine pump as well....

[Mal]

Found these placenames that may be of use/interest>-

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Melansagia – St Buryan (CRO, TA/23, 1844); Vellen sargy, 1749; Melansagia, Vellansagia (Field), 1844; Vellansergan, 1884

Meledor Mill – St Stephen in Brannel, flour mill (Symons, 1884)

Melengey Tenement – Perranarworthal, of Charles Thomas (*CRO, P182/12/1, 1729); Mellengie Myll, 1570; Melingy alias Velinchy, 1638; Melinchy, 1653; Melengey Tenement, 1729; Melinkey, Vellingey, 1842; Mellingey, 1842; Millingey, 1860; Mellingey, 1884

Melenzeth – Constantine, hamlet (Symons, 1884)

Melin, Heuis – St Buryan, at Rissick, field held by Henry Grylls, 2 acres, 2 roods and 36 perches customary measure (*CRO, AD152/4, 1815)

Melinchy – Perranarworthal, decayed fulling-mill, piece of moorey ground and messuage (RIC, HB/11/68, *HendCal 5, c.1920s, §1138, 1653); Mellengie Myll, 1570; Melingy alias Velinchy, 1638; Melinchy, 1653; Melengey Tenement, 1729; Melinkey, Vellingey, 1842; Mellingey, 1842; Millingey, 1860; Mellingey, 1884

Melinge – Perranzabuloe (Padel, 1988, citing from 1650); Velingey, 1566; Melinge, 1650; Bolingey, 1884, 2003

Melingy – Perranarworthal (RIC, HB/11/67, *HendCal 5, c.1920s, §1137, 1638); Mellengie Myll, 1570; Melingy alias Velinchy, 1638; Melinchy, 1653; Melengey Tenement, 1729; Melinkey, Vellingey, 1842; Mellingey, 1842; Millingey, 1860; Mellingey, 1884

Melinkey – Perranarworthal, tenement (CRO, TA/182, 1842); Mellengie Myll, 1570; Melingy alias Velinchy, 1638; Melinchy, 1653; Melengey Tenement, 1729; Melinkey, Vellingey, 1842; Mellingey, 1842; Millingey, 1860; Mellingey, 1884

Melinsey – Veryan: Melinsey, tenement in the Manor of Elerkey (*RIC, HC/4/35, 1634); Mellinsea, Higher Mills, (CRO, PL/27, 1685); Higher Mill, farm (Symons, 1884); Melinsey, 2003.

Melinsey, 1634; Mellinsea, Higher Mills, 1685; Higher Mill, 1884; Melinsey, 2003

Melionackwartha – Colan (*CRO, TA/35, 1842)

Mellancoose – Colan, farm (Symons, 1884); Malancoose (Mill), 1842; Mellancoose, 1884

Mellancoose – Cornelly, farm and mill (Symons, 1884); Mellengoose Mill Tenement, 1846; Mellancoose, 1884

Mellancoose – St Enoder, farm (Symons, 1884)

Mellancoose – Wendron, farm (Symons, 1884); Mellegonese, 1588; Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, 1844; Mellancoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Mellancoose, Higher – Sithney, farm (Symons, 1884); Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, Mellingoose, 1842; Higher/Lower Mellancoose (Mill), Mellangoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Mellancoose, Lower – Sithney, farm (Symons, 1884); Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, Mellingoose, 1842; Higher/Lower Mellancoose (Mill), Mellangoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Mellancoose Mill – Sithney, flour mills &c (Symons, 1884); Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, Mellingoose, 1842; Higher/Lower Mellancoose (Mill), Mellangoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Mellandruckia – Madron, tenement (CRO, TA/133, 1842); Velandrutha, 1757; Velandructia, 1782; Mellandruckia, 1842; Vellandruchia Farm, 1929

Mellanear – St Erth, 25 acres (Symons, 1884); Mellen heere alias Mellen heire alias Vellen neere, 1657; Mellineer, 1842; Mellanear, 1884

Mellanear House – Hayle, Mr James West (Symons, 1884)

Mellanear Tin Smelting House – Hayle (Symons, 1884)

Mellangoose – Sithney, tenement (CRO, TA/209, 1842) (Symons, 1884); Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, Mellingoose, 1842; Higher/Lower Mellancoose (Mill), Mellangoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Mellangoose – Wendron, tenement (CRO, TA/249, 1844); Mellegonese, 1588; Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, 1844; Mellancoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Mellanoweth – Phillack, several small tenements and houses (Symons, 1884); Mellenoweth, 1844; Mellanoweth, 1884

Mellanvrane – Phillack, farm (Symons, 1884); Vellan-vrâne, 1749; Mellenvrane, Vellenvrane, 1844; Mellanvrane, 1884

Mellegonese – Wendron (RIC, HI/1/9, *HendCal 2, c.1920s, §229, p342, 1588); Mellegonese, 1588; Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, 1844; Mellancoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Mellen Druchy – Stithians (Gover [all details in need of verification], 1948, p533, citing from 1725); Melyntrukkye, 1420; Melyn Tokye, 1512; Mellen Druchy, Vellen Drocky, 1725; Vellandruckye, 1884; Vellandruchia, 1948

Mellen heere – St Erth, griest water mill, in the Manor of Trelissicke or Trelegicke (RIC, HM/2/26, *HendCal 30, c.1920s, §46, p239, 1657); Mellen heere alias Mellen heire alias Vellen neere, 1657; Mellineer, 1842; Mellanear, 1884

Mellen heire – St Erth, griest water mill, in the Manor of Trelissicke or Trelegicke (RIC, HM/2/26, *HendCal 30, c.1920s, §46, p239, 1657); Mellen heere alias Mellen heire alias Vellen neere, 1657; Mellineer, 1842; Mellanear, 1884

Mellengie Myll – Perranarworthal (RIC, HB/11/2, *HendCal 5, c.1920s, §326, 1570); Mellengie Myll, 1570; Melingy alias Velinchy, 1638; Melinchy, 1653; Melengey Tenement, 1729; Melinkey, Vellingey, 1842; Mellingey, 1842; Millingey, 1860; Mellingey, 1884

Mellengoose Mill Tenement – Cornelly, tenement (CRO, TA/38, 1846); Mellengoose Mill Tenement, 1846; Mellancoose, 1884

Mellenoweth – Phillack, tenement (CRO, TA/186, 1844); Mellenoweth, 1844; Mellanoweth, 1884

Mellenoweth Mine – Phillack, also called Wheal Maggot in 1808, later known as Angarrack Consols and West Wheal Rose (CA 15, 1976, p102)

Mellenvrane – Phillack, tenement (CRO, TA/186, 1844); Vellan-vrâne, 1749; Mellenvrane, Vellenvrane, 1844; Mellanvrane, 1884

Mellewarne – Cury, farm (Symons, 1884); Millewarn, 1841; Mellewarne, Millwarne, 1884 (see also Malloorn)

Mellineer – St Erth, tenement (CRO, TA/59, 1842); Mellen heere alias Mellen heire alias Vellen neere, 1657; Mellineer, 1842; Mellanear, 1884

Mellingey – Constantine, farm (Symons, 1884); Melangye (and Woodhouse), 1842; Mellingey, 1884

Mellingey – Cubert, tenement (CRO, TA/43, 1842), farm (Symons, 1884) (see also Bollingey)

Mellingey – St Issey, 3 tenements (Symons, 1884)

Mellingey – Perranarworthal, tenement (CRO, TA/182, 1842), the newly built mansion of John Jose, Esquire (Symons, 1884); Mellengie Myll, 1570; Melingy alias Velinchy, 1638; Melinchy, 1653; Melengey Tenement, 1729; Melinkey, Vellingey, 1842; Mellingey, 1842; Millingey, 1860; Mellingey, 1884

Mellingoose – Sithney, tenement (CRO, TA/209, 1842)

Mellins Mill Tenement – Feock, mentioned in introduction (CRO, TA/64, 1845)

Mellinsea – Veryan: see under Melinsey.

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Velandructia – Madron (*CRO, P133/5/1, 1782); Velandrutha, 1757; Velandructia, 1782; Mellandruckia, 1842; Vellandruchia Farm, 1929

Velandrutha – Madron (*CRO, P133/12/1, 1757); Velandrutha, 1757; Velandructia, 1782; Mellandruckia, 1842; Vellandruchia Farm, 1929

Velanleague Stamps – St Agnes, tenement, in the manor of Perwinnick and Menagissey, held by Mr Thomas Cork (*CRO, AD388/12, 1729)

Velanusen – Crowan (*CRO, AD1709/1, 1796); Velanusen, 1796; Vellanuson, 1841; Vellanusan, 1884

Vele's house – Boyton (Borlase, 1749, p152)

Velenoweth – Ludgvan (*CRO, P129/12/1, 1709 and 1713); Velenoweth Tenement, 1707; Velenoweth, 1709; Vellenoweth, 1711; Velenowth, 1712; Velenoweth, 1713; Vellownoweth, 1799; Vellanoweth, Villanoweth, 1840; Vellanoweth, 1884

Velenoweth Tenement – Ludgvan (*CRO, P129/12/1, 1707); Velenoweth Tenement, 1707; Velenoweth, 1709; Vellenoweth, 1711; Velenowth, 1712; Velenoweth, 1713; Vellownoweth, 1799; Vellanoweth, Villanoweth, 1840; Vellanoweth, 1884

Velenowth – Ludgvan (*CRO, P129/12/1, 1712); Velenoweth Tenement, 1707; Velenoweth, 1709; Vellenoweth, 1711; Velenowth, 1712; Velenoweth, 1713; Vellownoweth, 1799; Vellanoweth, Villanoweth, 1840; Vellanoweth, 1884

Velin Vork – St Buryan, field in Selena (CRO, TA/23, No.423, 1844)

Velinchy – Perranarworthal (RIC, HB/11/67, *HendCal 5, c.1920s, §1137, 1638); Mellengie Myll, 1570; Melingy alias Velinchy, 1638; Melinchy, 1653; Melengey Tenement, 1729; Melinkey, Vellingey, 1842; Mellingey, 1842; Millingey, 1860; Mellingey, 1884

Velingey – Perranzabuloe (Padel, 1988, citing from 1566); Velingey, 1566; Melinge, 1650; Bolingey, 1884, 2003

Vellan, Carn – St Just in Penwith (OS, 6”, 1908)

vellan, Gweal-la- – Camborne, letter from Robert Newcombe to John Pendarves Bassett at Tehiddy (*RIC, HendCal 5, p38-9, 1736); Gwelanvellan, 1664; Gweale la villan, 1734; Gweal-la-vellan, 1736; Gwealavllan, 1743; Gwellavellan, 1745; Gwellevellen, 1758; Gwellenvellen, 1768; Gwealabellan, 1842; Gwealelavellan, 1843; Gwallevellan, Gwealavellan, 1884; Gwealavellan, 1888, 1983

Vellan, Park an – Towednack, at Nancledery (CRO, TA/226, No.897, 1842)

Vellan Drang – Landewednack (SW 7011), coastal (OS, 1:25000, 1996)

Vellan sander – Camborne (Borlase, 1749, p152); VellanSandry, 1743; Vellan sander, 1749; Vellan Sandry, 1759; Vellynsaundry, 1822; Vellyn Saundry, 1843; Vellansaundry, 1884

Vellan Sandry – Camborne, of Abraham Row (*CRO, X510, 1759); VellanSandry, 1743; Vellan sander, 1749; Vellan Sandry, 1759; Vellynsaundry, 1822; Vellyn Saundry, 1843; Vellansaundry, 1884

Vellan sargy – St Buryan (Borlase, 1749, p152); Vellen sargy, 1749; Melansagia, Vellansagia (Field), 1844; Vellansergan, 1884

Vellan-vrâne – Phillack (Borlase, 1749, p152); Vellan-vrâne, 1749; Mellenvrane, Vellenvrane, 1844; Mellanvrane, 1884

Vellandruchia – Stithians (Gover, 1948, p533); Melyntrukkye, 1420; Melyn Tokye, 1512; Mellen Druchy, Vellen Drocky, 1725; Vellandruckye, 1884; Vellandruchia, 1948

Vellandruchia Farm – Madron, of William Sydney Hall, farmer, and wife Elizabeth (*CRO, DG/219, 1929); Velandrutha, 1757; Velandructia, 1782; Mellandruckia, 1842; Vellandruchia Farm, 1929

Vellandruckye – Stithians, hamlet, farm and mill (Symons, 1884); Melyntrukkye, 1420; Melyn Tokye, 1512; Mellen Druchy, Vellen Drocky, 1725; Vellandruckye, 1884; Vellandruchia, 1948

Vellandructia Croft – St Buryan, field in Trembothick (CRO, TA/23, No.2797, 1844) (see also Mill Pool Downs)

Vellandructia Field – St Buryan, field in Trembothick (CRO, TA/23, No.2798, 1844) (see also Mill Pool Downs)

Vellandructia Moor – St Buryan, field in Trembothick (CRO, TA/23, No.2793, 1844) (see also Mill Pool Downs)

Vellangoose – Sithney (Symons, 1884); Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, Mellingoose, 1842; Higher/Lower Mellancoose (Mill), Mellangoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Vellangoose – Wendron, farm (Symons, 1884); Mellegonese, 1588; Villangoos, 1749; Mellangoose, 1844; Mellancoose, Vellangoose, 1884

Vellanoweth – St Agnes, farm (Symons, 1884)

Vellanoweth – Constantine, farm (Symons, 1884)

Vellanoweth – Ludgvan, tenement (CRO, TA/129, 1840), farm (Symons, 1884); Velenoweth Tenement, 1707; Velenoweth, 1709; Vellenoweth, 1711; Velenowth, 1712; Velenoweth, 1713; Vellownoweth, 1799; Vellanoweth, Villanoweth, 1840; Vellanoweth, 1884

Vellans Tenement, Crafthole – Sheviock (CRO, TA/208, 1842)

Vellansagia Field – St Buryan, field in Tregadwith (CRO, TA/23, No.2973, 1844); Vellen sargy, 1749; Melansagia, Vellansagia (Field), 1844; Vellansergan, 1884

VellanSandry – Camborne, of Abraham Row (*CRO, X510, 1743); VellanSandry, 1743; Vellan sander, 1749; Vellan Sandry, 1759; Vellynsaundry, 1822; Vellyn Saundry, 1843; Vellansaundry, 1884

Vellansaundry – Camborne, farm (Symons, 1884); VellanSandry, 1743; Vellan sander, 1749; Vellan Sandry, 1759; Vellynsaundry, 1822; Vellyn Saundry, 1843; Vellansaundry, 1884

Vellansergen – St Buryan, farm (Symons, 1884); Vellen sargy, 1749; Melansagia, Vellansagia (Field), 1844; Vellansergan, 1884

Vellanusan – Crowan, a small farm (Symons, 1884); Velanusen, 1796; Vellanuson, 1841; Vellanusan, 1884

Vellanuson – Crowan, tenement (CRO, TA/42, 1841); Velanusen, 1796; Vellanuson, 1841; Vellanusan, 1884

Vellen, Parke – Ludgvan, in Corowlas (RIC, HB/14/159c, *HendCal 8, c.1920s, §1680, 1649), in Corowles (RIC, HB/14/159f, *HendCal 8, c.1920s, §1683, 1663)

Vellen Drocky – Stithians (Gover [all details in need of verification], 1948, p533, citing from 1725); Melyntrukkye, 1420; Melyn Tokye, 1512; Mellen Druchy, Vellen Drocky, 1725; Vellandruckye, 1884; Vellandruchia, 1948

Vellen Estate, Nance – Camborne: see under Nancemellin.

Vellen neere – St Erth, griest water mill, in the Manor of Trelissicke or Trelegicke (RIC, HM/2/26, *HendCal 30, c.1920s, §46, p239, 1657); Mellen heere alias Mellen heire alias Vellen neere, 1657; Mellineer, 1842; Mellanear, 1884

Vellen sack – Cury (Borlase, 1749, p152)

Vellen Vor – Sithney (Gover, 1948, p529)

Vellenhoggan – Gulval (*CRO, AR/15/148, 1761), tenement (CRO, AD59/33 (TA), 1843)

Vellenhoggan & Moors, Trevarrack, – Gulval, tenement (CRO, A59/33 (TA), 1843)

"Vellenhoggan, and Church Town" – Gulval, tenement (CRO, AD59/33 (TA), 1843)

Vellenhogan, and Church Town, Trevarrack, – Gulval, tenement (CRO, AD59/33 (TA), 1843)

Vellenoweth – St Ives, at Trevalgen (CRO, TA/91, No.108, 1844)

Vellenoweth – Ludgvan (*CRO, P129/12/1, 1711); Velenoweth Tenement, 1707; Velenoweth, 1709; Vellenoweth, 1711; Velenowth, 1712; Velenoweth, 1713; Vellownoweth, 1799; Vellanoweth, Villanoweth, 1840; Vellanoweth, 1884

Vellenvrane – Phillack, tenement (CRO, TA/186, 1844); Vellan-vrâne, 1749; Mellenvrane, Vellenvrane, 1844; Mellanvrane, 1884

Vellin Antron – Mabe, tenement (CRO, TA/131, 1842); Vellin Antron, 1842; Vellin Antron otherwise Antron Vale, 1907

Vellingey – Perranarworthal, tenement (CRO, TA/182, 1842); Mellengie Myll, 1570; Melingy alias Velinchy, 1638; Melinchy, 1653; Melengey Tenement, 1729; Melinkey, Vellingey, 1842; Mellingey, 1842; Millingey, 1860; Mellingey, 1884

Velna Meadow, Venton – St Hilary (Marazion), field in Gwallan (CRO, TA/136, No.651, 1841)

Vellon, Croft an – St Ives, at Hellesveor (CRO, TA/91, No.281, 1844)

[myghaelangof]

Dear All,

I am reliably informed that a Cornish windmill would be 'melyn wyns'
This is from my cousin who teaches and fluently talks in Cornish. He was also a member of the committee on the recent unification of the language.

Best wishes, Mike