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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 16, 2009 8:45:10 GMT -5
Hope you are not too tuckered out! Ok - we now know that Honoria was a widow when she submitted the petition so that certainly brings the 1817 burial into play. However, it is still possible that Thomas died 'at sea' in which case we may not actually find a burial for him. The question still stands - IF Thomas is the one buried in 1817 then why did Honoria wait five years to approach Trinity House for assistance? We also do not know for certain just where Thomas was born so it is possible he could be the one bp. at Lelant in 1768 s/o Thomas and Susannah. But there is also a Thomas bp. at Ilfracombe about the right time to have been the husband of Honoria. Thomas STEEVINS bp. 16th March 1759 s/o Thomas and Mary Thomas STEPHENS bp. 30th June 1777 s/o William and Jane Could it be that his family spent some time up that way and returned to St Ives sometime after he was born? IGI records six children baptised to Thomas and Mary between 1746 and 1767. (These are the only children at Ilfracombe with these parents.) More interesting, perhaps, is that there is only one child baptised at Ilfracombe to parents named William and Jane - Thomas in 1777. Food for thought perhaps.
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Post by cornishmaid on Jan 17, 2009 5:17:26 GMT -5
Thank you CT I have decided I am going to order a copy of the Trinity House Petition as soon as I can. Hopefully it will give as much detail as the one I received for William Rowe (Thomas Stevens' son-in-law), and I can take it from there. If it doesn't give any clue about his parentage, it should at least give his age at death which will give me more to go on. Thank you Gandolf and CT for all your help. Will post again as soon as I get my mitts on that Petition
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 17, 2009 5:28:58 GMT -5
'Tis a pleasure, as always, to be of assistance. Should I think of, or find, anything else I shall let you know but there seem to be too many possibilities with too little clues at the moment. Pity it has to cost the old heard-earned but at least it will be primary documented evidence. I will be looking forward to the results and if it happens that he was a St Ives boy then I may have quite a bit more to offer.
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Post by lucrezia on Mar 20, 2009 0:19:04 GMT -5
I just found my Abraham stevens ty gandolf.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 20, 2009 1:36:07 GMT -5
Well done Lucrezia! When you are organised would you like to share a little with us please? Be nice to know how and where he fits and it might help us to sort a few other things out and be able to help the next person with a Stevens problem. CT
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Post by cornishmaid on Apr 29, 2009 15:12:26 GMT -5
My apologies for my prolonged absence, there are just not enough hours in the day or days in the week at the moment After many problems with Origins, I have eventually been sent a copy of the Trinity House Petition submitted by Honoria Stevens, and the document itself tells me.... nothing! . Here are the details: Petitioner was Honoria Stevens aged 42 years, Widow of Thomas Stevens deceased, residing at St Ives in the County of Cornwall. Thomas Stevens was bred to the sea and served there in the coasting and foreign trade, and particular in station of Master on board schooner Richard of St Ives ? ? ? ? the coasting of foreign trade and served in that capacity for about 14 years. It also mentions the two children born in 1813 and 1817. Unfortunately the petition does not seem to have been certified and recommended, and so there are no further "firm" details as to how and when he died. Luckily, someone has done some arithmetic at the top of the page, ie: 1821 - 1778 = 43. Year of death, year of birth, and age at death me thinks . You mentioned the following baptism in Ilfracombe CT: Thomas STEPHENS bp. 30th June 1777 s/o William and Jane. This would look quite likely now wouldn't it. Will re-read the whole thread and see how this is all coming together. Thank you all for all your help.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 29, 2009 15:28:08 GMT -5
Welcome back m'darlin! From what you have outlined here it certainly looks possible - although not yet confirmed. But I believe you have been supplied with another possible clue. Might be worth doing som 'googling' for the 'Richard' and might also be worth checking with the Falmouth Museum. Never know what you might find! Will try and have another look at this tonight. CT
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Post by cornishmaid on Apr 29, 2009 16:57:37 GMT -5
'Tis a pleasure to be back me ansum . I have been trying to catch up with all the recent threads, and now my little brain hurts Good thinking batman, will certainly look into the "Richard" . I am ashamed to say that little clue somewhat passed me by because I was so fed up that the Petition wasn't certified and didn't give any further information about how Thomas died. What am I like eh Having spent some time trying to locate the Parish Registers for Ilfracombe, and trying to work out who to contact, I gave up. I have, therefore, just emailed the OPC for Ilfracombe to see if she can either help or point me in the right direction. Good job for Parish Clerks eh. I am hoping the parish registers might provide some extra clues. CM
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Post by cornishmaid on Apr 29, 2009 17:27:16 GMT -5
Nearly forgot, the baptism you found in Ilfracombe, ie: Thomas STEPHENS bp. 30th June 1777 s/o William and Jane I had another look at the grandchildren of my Thomas Stevens (ie the children of son Thomas Stevens and Elizabeth Quick Grenfell) and one of them was called Jane. I can't find anywhere else in the family as yet where the name Jane may have come from. May be a clue Unfortunately the family were very short on boys; they only had the one who was named Thomas after his father and grandfather , so no William I'm afraid.
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Post by cornishmaid on Apr 30, 2009 2:36:20 GMT -5
Oh, if every morning could start like this one ;D I have had a reply from the OPC for Ilfracombe. Firstly I am bowled over by how quickly she got back to me. Secondly, I am smiling because of the following information which she so kindly supplied: Marriages: Thomas Rodd & Honora Salmon, by licence 31 March 1807, both of this Parish Witnesses: Mary Salmon Parminter & William Cooke Thomas Stevens of St Ives & Honoria Rodd of this Parish, By Licence 7 May 1811 Witnesses: Honoria Parminter & Cutcliffe Greenslade The Baptism of Thomas their son is as follows: Entry 22, 25 March 1813, Thomas son of Thomas (Mariner) & Honoria Stevens Oh my little cup of joy runneth over ;D. I am just going to enjoy this little moment before I try and find out who Thomas Stevens Snr was
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 30, 2009 2:46:40 GMT -5
How good is that?!!! What great news after all that hard work and frustration! I think I mentioned the possibility (maybe in a roundabout way ) that you would get somewhere if you persisted. Hopefully my little bit was of some help in at least keeping you motivated if not actually getting the results. Right - so now we have that information it should be that little bit easier to identify young Thomas - I hope! I will come back to this in a while and read the thread again then see if I can narrow the field a little. CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 30, 2009 6:03:56 GMT -5
I have just tried a bit of hunting around to see if I could find anything on the 'Richard' but it looks like being a long hard grind.
So the best bet might be to go directly to the Falmouth Maritime Museum to see what information they might have.
At least we have something more to go on.
CT
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