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Post by londoner on Jan 14, 2009 6:09:10 GMT -5
No doubt you will be overjoyed to know that Cornwall is one of the counties covered in the newly released 1911 Census.  ;D Unfortunately at 30 credits per image or 10 per transcription (and 600 units = about £49.50.) I shall be making a list of priorities before I start downloading - and using the free search to be as sure as possible that I have the correct entry.  Good luck to you all.  |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 14, 2009 7:15:27 GMT -5
Thankyou Londoner. That is good news - i.e. that 1911 is being released and Cornwall is included in the initial release. ;D That is bad news - i.e. the cost of the darned thing! Never mind - will try and have a bit of a look tonight and tomorrow.  |
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 14, 2009 11:10:43 GMT -5
Tried the 'free' one last night and found that not one of the people I searched for existed.....Strange....if grandad didn't exist, neither do I...so perhaps I don't and the 'free' thing is also a figment of my imagination.  ...but hang on...I drink, therefore I am!!! As for paying, well, my mate Eric comes from Paul and he says that anyone who has any relationship, however remote, with St Buryan is tighter than a crab's bum. He's right, I for one won't be paying to be told I don't exist.  |
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Post by genie on Jan 14, 2009 15:48:08 GMT -5
I have found some of my ancestors and just paid for the transcript.
Unfortunately with one of them there is a problem . A marriage certificate that arrived yesterday regarding the person I am interested in has his father as someone that I can't find online in any census or BMD for a marriage and his mother also has a different name.
The address mentioned on the certificate and the 1911 census are the same as in the 1891 census.
So there are more questions than answers!
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Post by myghaelangof on Jan 14, 2009 18:34:07 GMT -5
Dear All, Just like TonyMitch I cant exist either  My grandad Angove should have been on there age 2 or 3, but cant find him nor his parents. And going by londoners figures, that means each image costs £2-50!! I can get a whole pint of Tribute for THAT much. Ah well I'll just wait a year or two for ancestry to download all the info and then have a good scroll. I'm sure I cant be missing out on any great excitement Best wishes to all.  |
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Post by londoner on Jan 15, 2009 5:29:36 GMT -5
The contract went to "Find my Past" not Ancestry so I doubt they will sell on the information - certainly not in the near future. As to those "missing" people - bear in mind that the free search is of the transcriptions and we know how easily non-cornish transcribers can mis-interpret Cornish names. The wild card search option has been suspended for the initial period until the excitement dies down and the site is less busy - othetrwise it would slow up everything for everyone. So for the time being we have to try all possible variations eg Mitchell, Mitchel, Michell, Michel etc. Happy hunting |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 15, 2009 6:14:53 GMT -5
Genie, Tony and Mike please feel free to contact me via PM with a few of those names and will be happy to have a bit of a hunt around. I had a look last night just for interest but won't be paying for anything elaborate I can tell you.  My plan is to work through the common spellings of my surname and, within each spelling, group people into 'known' or 'prospective' family groups. I already have details from the St Catherine's House indexes so can group many of these by the District in which they lived in 1911. That should, hopefully, help me identify a couple of 'strays' that I currently have. Let me know if I can give you a hand. Of course that goes for Londoner also  but it seems there might be a bit of a head start there! |
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 15, 2009 6:31:41 GMT -5
Thanks Lesley, I was trying to find info about my other maternal line. Do you remember my problem a while back on the 1901 census "William Davies, born Wales" (Thanks a bundle grandad, how many William Davies's were born in Wales in 1872?). Nothing showed up. Tried Mitchell born Cornwall...nothing...altered place of birth to St Just....nothing. Eventually omitted the 'place of birth' section BINGO...William Davies and Margaret Alice Davies living in Wigan. ;D My problem was putting in too much info which is either incorrect or else does not conply with the wording on the census. Mike, try again omitting 'place of birth' and also 'residential place'. I messed up initially with residential place too, thinking my lot were in the Leigh district whereas they were in Wigan. On a positive note I have discovered that William does not come from Aberdare, Carmarthen or Swansea as typing in these 'places of birth' produce a negative response. Where the hangman does he come from? Looks like I will have to spend some money after all!  |
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Post by cornishmaid on Jan 15, 2009 6:49:16 GMT -5
I must admit to being too impatient to wait,  so I bought some units yesterday. Didn't take long to use them up though I only paid the minimum, so only got a few transcriptions of my most intriguing relations. It does seem that the less information you put in the more likely you are of finding someone. I put exact birthdate, place of birth and name in for someone and turned up no results. Then I just put last name in and date of birth with a few years each side, and bingo, there he was. Don't forget to do advanced search, so you can change the "exact" to allow for variations in name, age, etc. Perhaps we can post any queries for anyone we are looking for to see if anyone else can find the elusive so and so's |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 15, 2009 7:02:45 GMT -5
Cornishmaid has pre-empted me to a cerain extent! I always find in any of the Census records to work on the theory that 'Less is Best'. Once you start trying to get too exact there are far too many variables brought into play and it takes only one of those to b____r up the whole show. Troubleshooting from there becomes a nightmare as it is extremely difficult to work out just which piece of supplied information caused the problem. Less information supplies many more possibilities but also has it's downfalls because of producing far too many options to search through. But the more options are presented the better chance of finding what you are after. And in the back of the mind must always be the thought - 'Just how might the transcriber have seen/read the entry?' Good luck all! |
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Post by HeatherC on Jan 15, 2009 7:25:37 GMT -5
Hello All The wild card option has been suspended as Londoner says The wild card search option has been suspended for the initial period until the excitement dies down and the site is less busy - othetrwise it would slow up everything for everyone. So for the time being we have to try all possible variations eg Mitchell, Mitchel, Michell, Michel etc. But there is a way round it ;D When searching for missing or hidden ancestors (they do it on purpose some of them I am sure...... just to keep us on our toes ) Go to the advanced search options and for Surname just put a comma (,) nothing else, no brackets. Then the first name/s plus other details you have....... Place of birth, date of birth +/- 1 or 2 for the person you are looking for. Also a first name of another household member you expect to find with them. Then search..... I have found a couple of missing people way. If you go on and play about with "Location" and select "Residential Place" you have a number of options..... "This field draws matches from a number of other search fields: address, locality name, institution name, vessel name, parish name, street name, registration sub-district name, registration district name, and registration county name."So try any of those (if you know them) along with the comma trick and the first name of one other you expect to find there or "Census Reference" and the comma for surname....... It's helping me to narrow down "not sures" before making a decision on which ones to be spending out on. Hope all that makes sense Best regards HeatherC |
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Post by londoner on Jan 15, 2009 7:30:54 GMT -5
That sounds like a really useful tip. I also found that with some of my lot once !had the main family member, then putting just the surname and place of residence brings up others living there and if your name is not too frequently found ( I hesitate to say common!) then you probably have all the children born since 1901. However if the extended family all live in the same area then you will need to pay to see which family group is which. hope that makes sense! |
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Post by white on Jan 15, 2009 8:47:12 GMT -5
Steady on Tony,
If your enthusiasm gets the better of you, like me, your crab could
end up with the trots.
Roy ;D
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Post by Mal on Jan 15, 2009 16:14:50 GMT -5
Me too... already blown 14 quid on it!!! Did find some useful information but was disappointed by some other gaps... it has also raised some questions.... one of which I am about to ask in another section!!!!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 16, 2009 7:39:16 GMT -5
Although I won't be entering into the 'pay' part of this I would encourage any of you who have problems as forecast by Malcolm and others to post them and let me have a look. No guarantees but I can certainly try to make some sense of it for you. As for me - I am simply going to look for variations of TREWHELLA one by one and detail whatever I am presented with. No real abundance of names to worry about so I hope to be able to piece the relevant families together with the help of other resources I have indexed in the past. Might be a different story when I get stuck! ;D |
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...but hang on...I drink, therefore I am!!! 
My grandad Angove should have been on there age 2 or 3, but cant find him nor his parents.
but it seems there might be a bit of a head start there! 
so I bought some units yesterday. Didn't take long to use them up though 
