Post by Glazin2018 on Jun 26, 2019 20:38:40 GMT -5
I know this is from a long time ago, but...
Charles Dale Dale, was born on the 12th September 1838 at St Ives. His father was Richard Dale, his mother reported to be Jane Eustis, no maiden name given for Jane so likely the parents were not married. His grandmother was Elizabeth Dale. It is possible that the grandmother was incorrect in the christian name of Ms Eustice, however Jane is what is recorded. Therefore it is likely that Richard Dale the father was baptised at St Ives in 1800, the son of another Richard Dale and Elizabeth Blackwell. Both of these grandparents Richard (1840) and Elizabeth (1838) died before the 1841 census which is another explanation why 3 year old Charles is not with immediate family. Richard Dale the father married in the same year as the birth of Charles but there were no children to this marriage that I am aware of.
The constant change from Dale to Eustice as a surname says to me that Charles knew who both his parents were.
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1851 Census
Address: Hellesvore
NOAL Jacob Head U M 46 Farmer Of 12 Acres Empl 2 Labr Cornwall - St Ives
NOAL Richard Lodger U M 52 Lodger Cornwall - St Ives
TRADREA Maria Servnt U F 44 Farmer's Servant Cornwall - St Ives
DALE Charles Servnt - M 12 Farmer's Boy Cornwall - St Ives
I agree that Mary Eustice, daughter of Francis is a fair possibility for Charles' mother. The question is why Charles DALE is not apparently not with his mother from a very young age?
I did wonder whether the Maria Tredrea listed with the Noal family in 1851 might have been Charles' mother, but given she is unmarried she can't be the same person as Mary Eustice. Also I have found Maria on the 1841 Census as a servant to Margaret Broad at Madron, so the two points together would seem to eliminate her as a possibility.
Address: Hellesvore
NOAL Jacob Head U M 46 Farmer Of 12 Acres Empl 2 Labr Cornwall - St Ives
NOAL Richard Lodger U M 52 Lodger Cornwall - St Ives
TRADREA Maria Servnt U F 44 Farmer's Servant Cornwall - St Ives
DALE Charles Servnt - M 12 Farmer's Boy Cornwall - St Ives
I agree that Mary Eustice, daughter of Francis is a fair possibility for Charles' mother. The question is why Charles DALE is not apparently not with his mother from a very young age?
I did wonder whether the Maria Tredrea listed with the Noal family in 1851 might have been Charles' mother, but given she is unmarried she can't be the same person as Mary Eustice. Also I have found Maria on the 1841 Census as a servant to Margaret Broad at Madron, so the two points together would seem to eliminate her as a possibility.
Charles Dale Dale, was born on the 12th September 1838 at St Ives. His father was Richard Dale, his mother reported to be Jane Eustis, no maiden name given for Jane so likely the parents were not married. His grandmother was Elizabeth Dale. It is possible that the grandmother was incorrect in the christian name of Ms Eustice, however Jane is what is recorded. Therefore it is likely that Richard Dale the father was baptised at St Ives in 1800, the son of another Richard Dale and Elizabeth Blackwell. Both of these grandparents Richard (1840) and Elizabeth (1838) died before the 1841 census which is another explanation why 3 year old Charles is not with immediate family. Richard Dale the father married in the same year as the birth of Charles but there were no children to this marriage that I am aware of.
The constant change from Dale to Eustice as a surname says to me that Charles knew who both his parents were.
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