If William Bryant was baptised in 1767 that would make his parents William & Jane (nee Noall). William Bryant and Jane Noall children were named: - William 1767, Henry 1768, Margaret 1769, Ann 1770, James 1772, Ann 1773, Mary 1774, Mary 1776, Peter 1777 and Thomas 1779.
I found 2 William Bryant’s born in the time frame. 1738, Uny Lelant to William Bryant and Jane Tilly, married 1737 Lelant. 1743, Uny Lelant to William Bryant and Susanna Williams married 1739 Lelant. I found 2 Jane Noall’s born in the time frame. 1743 to John Noall & Elizabeth Davies married 1730 1746 to Philip Noall & Ann Richard alias Grease married 1736
William Bryant and Jane Noall did not name any children Jane, Susanna or Elizabeth, 2nd daughter was named Ann. They didn’t name any sons John or Philip.
William (William & Jane) had a brother Thomas and sister Mary. William (William & Susanna) had brothers Thomas and James and a sister Mary. Jane (John & Elizabeth) had no brothers or sisters with names of her children. Jane (Philip & Ann) brothers Thomas & Peter and sisters Margaret & Ann
With all that information is there any indicators that may point me in the direction that would tell me who William Bryant and Jane Noall’s parent are.
What does alias mean? If I was to search for Ann Richards alias Grease, do I search Richards or Grease.
I am definitely swaying towards William Bryant and Jane Noall being the parents of our William Bryant . The names of all their children fit nicely as well.
I have found 3 burials for Jane Bryant, 2 in Lelant and 1 in St Ives: Lelant - Burial date: 18 July 1790 Lelant - Burial Date: 11 May 1805 (no age given) St Ives - Burial Date: 28 July 1810, age: 73
I can only find one burial for William Bryant, which is in St Ives on 14 June 1786. He is aged 52.
Given the two St Ives burials, this would make Jane's birth circa 1737, and William's birth circa 1734, giving other possibilities to their parentage.
A William Bryant was baptised in Lelant on 1 November 1734 to James Bryant and Mary. James married Mary Morly on 30 April 1730 in Lelant. Their other children were: James, Joan, Mary, Elizabeth and Thomas.
A Jane "Nole" was baptised in St Ives on 26 April 1736 to William Noall and Jane, according to IGI. However, I cannot find this baptism in St Ives, and can't find an appropriate marriage at the moment for William and Jane.
I've got so many brick walls I could build a Mansion!
Could that be William Nole Note who married Jane Uren 6 Nov 1733 in Lelant. Jane Nole/Note 26/4/1736.
There is also a Jane Noall born 1735 to John Noall of Leeda and Elizabeth Uren. There again there are no children named John or Elizabeth.
There is also William Bryant “w” mariner, & Elizabeth Trevorrow, “w” marriage in St. Ives 27/12/1789. Still trying to find our who his 1st wife was. The last of William Bryant and Jane Noall’s children was born in 1779.
Post by cornishmaid on Dec 10, 2008 17:50:54 GMT -5
Have just had a look at Phillimores and this lists the marriage as:
William Mote & Jane Uren, of St Ives 6 November 1733
There are no "Mote" baptisms in Lelant or St Ives, however, there are indeed baptisms for William and Jane "Note", as follows:
William, bapt. 24 March 1733 Jane, bapt. 26 April 1736 Ann, bapt. 24 July 1737 Francis, bapt. 13 June 1740, to Jane Note, Widow
Although I can't find a burial of a William Mote/Note immediately, there is the burial of a William Noall in St Ives on 12 June 1739. Is this the same man? Will try and follow up parents of William Mote/Note/Noall and Jane Uren. Their daughter Jane Note's baptism certainly fits in with the Jane Noall we are looking for.
I've got so many brick walls I could build a Mansion!
Following on with Jane Nole/Note/Noall who married William Bryant.
John Noall and Elizabeth Davies had a daughter named Jane Noall. bpt 7 Aug 1743. Jane Noall married James Rosewall 18 July 1779 in St. Ives. Jane Rosewall died at St. Ives 16 Nov 1813 aged 70. This Jane Noall is Jane born to John and Elizabeth.
I think our Jane Noall who married William Bryant is the daughter of William Nole/Note and Jane Uren, she was bpt 26 April 1736 at St. Ives. Jane Bryant death in St. Ives 28 July 1810 aged 73
William Note married Jane Uren 6 Nov 1733 in Lelant. In St. Ives records there is a death for William Noall 1739 (a sickly young man) and 1740 William Nole (killed while digging for clay). There is a Jane Note died 1762.
I haven’t been able to find any information on William Note/Nole/Mote/Noall. Jane Uren is mostlikely the daughter of Edmond Uren bpt 20th Feb 1714/15 in Lelant.
Just a quick bit of info here:- According to my notes Anne Note was the widow of William Note when she married Thomas Colenso. Her maiden name was Rose and she was the daughter of John Rose(Rouse). Strangely one of her granddaughters is Anne Note Gendall, not Anne Rose Gendall.
Note/Rose, Ann b. 1738 Feock, Cornwall d. 1806 Penzance m1. Note, William d. 1760 m2. Colenso, Thomas 1761 Penzance
I have been spending the last few weeks working on William Bryant and Jane Noall/Nole/Note.
There were two William Bryant born 1734 one in Lelant to James and Mary and the other in Gwinear to Daniel & Bridget.
I have been looking at our William being the son of James and Mary.
The will of James:- JAMES BRYANT, of Lelant written: 8 Oct 1759 proved: 12 May 1760 son: JAMES BRYANT 1/48th pt. of my Adventure in Gothebrose in Lelant and Ludgvan; 1 long table board, 2 ash chairs etc. daughter: JOAN BRYANT 5 sh. daughter: MARY w/o SAMUELL MEAN 1 sh. son: THOMAS BRYANT 1 sh., coat with brass buttons, other clothing daughter: ELIZABETH BRYANT 1 sh. wife: MARY & son: WILLIAM all the rest & executors James Bryant witnesses: ANDREW HOSKING, RICHARD ( ) HOSKING Vol. 7, p. 33
Another will : JOHN COREY of Lelant, mariner written: 9 Jun 1762 proved: 12 May 1764 niece: MARGERY RAWLING of Lelant 1 sh. kinswoman: MARY MEANE d/o my nephew JAMES BRYANT of Lelant all the rest & executrix John Corey witnesses: ANDREW HOSKING, ANDREW HOSKING Junr. Vol. 8, p. 628
James Bryant married Mary Morly 30 April 1730 in Lelant. Mary Bryant married Samuel Mean17 Jan 1759 in Lelant. What I am trying to work out is how James Bryant is the nephew of John Corey.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Mar 25, 2009 9:58:43 GMT -5
Not going to be easy I don't think after having a quick look at the problem.
First suggestions would be that a sister of John COREY married James BRYANT's father.
But there is no early baptism for James in IGI and the Lelant records for that period are father scant.
I also had a look for John COREY and the nearest baptisms would be at Helston or St Hilary in the 1690's. Otherwise we are looking at places like Week St Mary and North Hill.
The other point to look at is that Margery RAWLING was also named as a niece of John COREY so that might be an avenue to pursue.
But therein appears another problem. I have just looked at baptisms for Margery RAWLING in IGI and there are only 15. In the context of this Will of John COREY there would only be 3 of that 15 that might be considered.
Margery d/o Thomas and Margery RAWLING bp. 27th March 1749 at St Just in Penwith
Margery d/o Benjamin and Grace ROWLIN bp. 7th December 1718 at Cuby with Tregony
Margery d/o William RAWLING bp. 1st December 1718 at St Gluvias
Apart from one in 1703 the remaining baptisms are 1500's and 1600's and far too early to be considered.
Perhaps there are more Wills that will provide the extra links required.