You're right of course - I was looking at Alex and missed that Thomas and WIlliam were older! Back to Paul to look for an Elizabeth who didnt marry anyone else!
I know this is not at Paul but in 1834 Thomas Kessell of Paul, father Daniel was married at Paul and given that Elizabeth & Alex had a child Daniel and another Annie Lide Im pretty sure this must be her: 1841 Census: Western Green Madron,1,Daniel Kessel,46,,Ag. Lab.,In county, ,,Ann Kessel,,46,,Ireland, ,,Elizabeth Kessel,,20,,In county, ,,Mary Kessel,,13,,In county, ,,Lucy Lyde,,6m,,In county still doesn't explain the lack of marriage though
Last Edit: Nov 4, 2008 11:40:59 GMT -5 by londoner
Unsourced reference to the marriage being June 1844. and that was the one to Phillip Charles Francis at Madron
Different folk give different parents for Elizabeth - William & Jenifer or Stephen but I still prefer Daniel. And they all have death 1855 Helston which we know from previous posts should be St Just 1859. This new feature on A....y of linking with other peoples trees is leading some people to accepting info without checking I fear.
Last Edit: Nov 4, 2008 12:03:43 GMT -5 by londoner
Hi all...well I can see that this is not a no action group!. Maybe as a start, it would be best if I let you have what I have. This is is the form of a .xls file and covers every event I have found out back to 1621. One of the difficult aspects is that there are many Alexander Bosankos and I have been down several false trails! However, I'm pretty sure that what there is now is OK. i have also started a website and you are most welcome to have a look if of interest. i will continue to add what I know and it seems it could be the labour of a lifetime! The url is :http://www.myheritage.com/site-36673002/kistell-web-site. If you want the spreadsheet, just let me have your email addresses and I'll send it off with pleasure. Then can address any issues that result. regards Tony
I have sent your the .xls file and mentioned a couple of points regarding the origins of the surname BOSANKO that I picked up. One theory is that it stems from BOSNIA where in the Bosnian language, BOSANKO means "woman". Another is that BOSANKO is a common surname in the UKRAINE and I distictly remember as a small boy of about 5 or 6 my old autie Melia telling me that she heard that the line came from somewhere in central europe. Now if they were in Cornwall in late 1500s then I can't imagine why they would go to UK from european mainland and indeed how they managed it!
Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 6, 2008 9:33:46 GMT -5
Have located some more information of interest regarding the two Elizabeth Kessells and I will start with the one who married Philip Charles FRANCIS.
I tried for quite some time today to locate them in the 1851 Census but to no avail - however I did locate Philip in 1861.
BUT he was no longer married to Elizabeth!
Philip Charles FRANCIS married Jane KENDALL in 1853 and according to the Census he had been born around 1823/4.
It would appear that Elizabeth died either towards the end of 1844 (which would have been a short time after her marriage) or else in 1852.
Unless they can be found in the 1851 Census (Philip at least) it is very difficult to know just when Elizabeth died. But I am tempted to think that it was 1844 as there currently seems to be no evidence of children.
As I posted in a previous note the IGI shows this Elizabeth as having been 19 when she married in 1844 and her father was Edmund.
Elizabeth d/o Edmund (gardener) and Mary Ann Kessell of Trewarrack was baptised at Gulval 14th February 1827
And now for the Elizabeth who married Alexander BOSANKO and who I believe was the daughter of Daniel and Ann.
Elizabeth d/o Daniel and Ann KESTLE of Bosolliack baptised 13th May 1821 at Madron
Daniel s/o Daniel and Ann KESTLE of Trythal in Gulval baptised 27th January 1826 at Madron (He married Mary Ann PAUL at Madron 21sth March 1847)
Mary d/o Daniel and Ann KESSELL of Bossolack baptised 15th April 1828 at Gulval
Cannot find a baptism for Lucy but having taken another look at the Census it would appear that shoe may not have been a daughter of Daniel and Ann but, perhaps, a niece.
Her name appears to be Lucy LYDE and not Lucy Lyde KESSEL.
Still haven't found the marriage to Alexander but at least this is a little more than what we had.
Mary Ann Kessell widow (father Nathaniel Bramble) age 35 married 10 Oct 1852 Madron to James Wood (44) batchelor. yes she was already a widow when she married Daniel K. Previous marriage was to Edward Paul 13-Oct 1838, Madron
1851 Census she has her mother living with her and an interesting transcription: Mary Bramble 77 Daniel Fissell 2 Emma Paul Fissell 11 Mary A Fissell 35 Mary A Fissell 3
1861 census has her with three children (all enumerated as Wood) but husband James absent Emma Paul Wood 21, Mary Ann Wood 13, Daniel Wood 12 James Wood 7
and 18 Dec 1864 Mary Ann Kessell age 17 father Daniel (printer) married Samuel Hawes (19) father John (shoemaker)
Last Edit: Nov 6, 2008 11:34:57 GMT -5 by londoner
Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 6, 2008 13:11:47 GMT -5
Did you notice that Ann was b Ireland according to 1841 census - so maybe the marriage was not in Cornwall
Yes I had noticed that and thought the same - even tried the impossible ;D and had a look at IGI for a possible marriage in Ireland. (I think I also tried an 'all County' search too.)
Also: 20 Mar 1791 St Levan Daniel Kestle s/o Thomas & Elizabeth
I already had this one in the database and have had it in the back of my mind as a possibility.
The 1840 Marriage - interesting.
Page 270 has two males and four females. Page 261 has three males and three females.
And so many darned Elizabeths!
It is, of course, a possibility but there are some issues to be resolved.
The imbalance of gender on page 270 indicates the possibility/probability that page 269 or 271 might have the balance.
Page 269 has four males and four females Page 271 has what appears to be a single marriage.
There is another possibility for that imbalance on page 270 especially as three of the females are all named Elizabeth - this 'could' be a third marriage for Elizabeth and she has been indexed three times. (under maiden name and both previous married names)
If that is the case then it will not be our Elizabeth.
The other problem to consider with an 1840 marriage is that there would be 4 years in which other children may have been born.
Do you realise the MAIN problem with the 1840 marriage, particularly as it occurred in the March Qtr
Elizabeth KESSEL is still living at home at Madron with her parents Daniel and Ann in the 1841 Census.