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Post by taipan72. on Mar 26, 2017 7:10:08 GMT -5
I apologise for the fact that I have not yet located my Cornish Surnames Book - but I have not forgotten. It is probable that I have mentioned this before but:- Henry SPARNON m. Mary VIOL sometime before 1843. According to Rootsweb Family Search Mary VIOL was baptised at Camborne 25th September 1803. I will try to do more on this as I get the chance. Ian The above people Cornish terrier mentioned above are direct ancestors of mine ...if anyone had any info on Mary Viol... Regards Heidi >Taipan72 PS-so is Viol/Veal the same family??? Or not I'm still learning about my bio family/families as I was adopted out & found my bio family at 16-I'm now 45 & still learning!.
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Post by citroenlady on Mar 26, 2017 9:07:28 GMT -5
I apologise for the fact that I have not yet located my Cornish Surnames Book - but I have not forgotten. It is probable that I have mentioned this before but:- Henry SPARNON m. Mary VIOL sometime before 1843. According to Rootsweb Family Search Mary VIOL was baptised at Camborne 25th September 1803. I will try to do more on this as I get the chance. Ian I have Mary Viol in my tree. She was born in 1800, in Illogan, and married Henry Sparnon in 1823. They emigrated to the USA and she died in 1885 in Rockaway, Morris County, New Jersey. As to the origins of the name, I've no idea.
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Post by trencrom on Mar 31, 2017 3:16:28 GMT -5
PS-so is Viol/Veal the same family??? Or not No, they are two different surnames. I suspect also with differing pronunciations. I have seen no evidence to indicate that the former surname is a spelling variation of the latter surname. I say that as a Veale researcher. Trencrom
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Post by taipan72. on Jun 6, 2017 23:18:59 GMT -5
Is VIOL a variant?.
I have Viol A Mary.
Regards Taipan72 hoverton72_ancestry
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Post by taipan72. on Jun 6, 2017 23:20:37 GMT -5
I think I have a Veal somewhere in my Cornish Ancestry. Give me some time to find where this link falls on my Ancestry Tree. Chris I have a Mary VIOL in mine and I also have Richards!. Taipan72 overtonh72-ancestry
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Post by taipan72. on Jun 6, 2017 23:22:11 GMT -5
I apologise for the fact that I have not yet located my Cornish Surnames Book - but I have not forgotten. It is probable that I have mentioned this before but:- Henry SPARNON m. Mary VIOL sometime before 1843. According to Rootsweb Family Search Mary VIOL was baptised at Camborne 25th September 1803. I will try to do more on this as I get the chance. Ian I have Mary Viol in my tree. She was born in 1800, in Illogan, and married Henry Sparnon in 1823. They emigrated to the USA and she died in 1885 in Rockaway, Morris County, New Jersey. As to the origins of the name, I've no idea. From Taipan72-I have them..these are my direct ancestors.Taipan72-hoverton72-ancestry.
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Post by taipan72. on Jun 6, 2017 23:23:42 GMT -5
VIOL AND SPARNON- my direct Ancestry Mary Viol and Henry Sparnon.
Taipan72-ancestry-hoverton72
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Post by trencrom on Jun 9, 2017 3:44:54 GMT -5
Is VIOL a variant?. I have Viol A Mary. Regards Taipan72 hoverton72_ancestry ' Whether "Viol" is a variant of "Vial" I could not say for certain, as my area of research has been the "Veale" surname instead. You would have to look at original records to see if the different surnames can be conclusively shown to have been interchangeably used in respect of the same individuals, and also how frequently that interchanging occurs in the records (this last is in case any isolated case of apparent interchanging is not just a scribal error, which I have come across occasionally). That interchanging would then constitute proof that you are dealing with two spelling versions of the one surname, and not two different surnames. Because when we are researching we are going back from the known to the unknown, it is always wise to initially assume that two people, or two names, are different until you have good evidence that they are in fact the same. Trencrom
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Post by taipan72. on Jun 11, 2017 7:59:48 GMT -5
Ok fair enough 👍😀
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Post by taipan72. on Aug 20, 2017 5:49:15 GMT -5
Just noticed the reference to Hoskings and I am also related to the Hoskins and Runnalls (who changed the name when they emigrated to America) Sandra Hey big red , I also gave Robert tabb & mAry Viol as we spell it viol anyways.. they are my 5x grandparents , their daughter Mary viol 1803-1885 m Henry Sparnon -my 4 x grandparents. Their daughter my 3x grandmother, Caroline Sparnon the one b Cambourne 1833-1906 she m Thomas Henry Whear/e from Breage they came to Australia on the Isle of Thanet & went to Koiringa Sth Australia. Caroline & Thomas' son Henry (gg gpa) m my gg Ma illegitimate Sidonia Buzza (Penzance workhouse b st Hilary 1859) daughter to ukwn Ann/Annie Buzza (Penzance workhouse b circa 1835/36). Sidonia died young in Adelaide south Australia 1882 my g gf Henry Emanuel Wheare the only surviving child of 3 male infants. Henry (who married Sidonia) then married Annie Jane Birch daughter of Richard Birch & Margaret Wilson.Henry died 1900 in a mining cage accident in Broken Hill Nsw. In south Australia Henry & Sidonia lived at kooringa/burra. They had married at Thomas & Caroline house in kooringa. Henry Emanuel Whear/e m Agnes McRae d/o American born to Scottish folks, Charles gray McRae (son Scottish born >to USA> Alexander mcrae & Agnes hardy). Agnes McRae d/o Charles gray McRae & Mary Anseline later McRae nee Morris. Agnes McRae ended up in Parkside asylum Sth Australia due to s cerebral haemorrhage & was therefore incapacitated. Henry Emanuel Wheare alias Henry Herbert Buzza then married Gertrude Surman in south Australia in 1935 and had a daughter Beatrice Evelyn Buzza she m Henry garnett king..they had a daughter Lynette Joyce king. Henry Emanuel Wheare (born Yu my south Australia)& Agnes McRae ( Agnes born Wilcannia Nsw)had 2 kids UNITA & Ernest Wheare. UNITA is my grandmother she m Raymond fenwick illegitimate son to Hannah fenwick. Hannah d/o john fenwick & Isabella wardrobe.
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Post by citroenlady on Aug 20, 2017 8:42:16 GMT -5
In our family 'Viol' and 'Vial' are interchangeable. It depended on whoever was registering the name. Veal is an entirely separate surname, and one that is quite common (in Cornwall, at least!)
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Post by vials on Feb 24, 2020 14:34:05 GMT -5
Hello. My last name is vials. My paternal grandfather assumed this as his lastname after to a falling out between himself and his father, and living with a man with the name of Vials thereafter. My family history with the name only goes as far back as my grandfather, but I have always wondered the origin of the name as it is quite unusual.
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