The Pawley Family of Lelant and ......

[Cornish Terrier]

In the past I have made a passing mention of an interest in the Pawley family of Lelant.

Having just had an offline query about the family in general I have decided to open up some discussion.

I have quite a number of this family in my database with all but a couple at Redruth being of Lelant and Gwithian.

The Gwithian family begins back pre-1600 but appears to have originated at Lelant with the Pawley family of Gunwin.

There is information regarding this family in the Lelant Church History and they appear to have been quite an affluent family marrying with the likes of PRAED, ARUNDELL and BORLASE to name a few.

But there appears also to have been a family at St Gluvias and at this point in time I do not know if there is a connection.

With such names involved as mentioned above I am sure a bit of discussion and study of this family could provide some of us with some help in our own lines.

Lelant is a Parish for which records prior to 1700 are quite spasmodic.
With these more well-to-do families there is a probability of more records being available in the way of Leases, Family/Estate Records etc. which could provide us with information not otherwise obtainable.

Looking forward to the discussion.

CT

[Kylie Down Under]

Hi CT

You seem to be very knowledgeable re the Pawley family. Hopefully you may know something of the Pawley family I am descended from.

I am a descendant of a Pawley family who seem to have originated from St. Gluvias. I don't have very much on this family, but I would be interested to see if they have any connections to the Pawley family of Lelant. I would also be interested if anybody knows about, or has connections to the Pawley family below.

I will list what I have:

Thomas Pawley b. abt 1780 St. Gluvias m. Mary Williams? b. abt 1785 St. Gluvias on the 18 July 1808 in St. Gluvias. They had 11 Children all born in St. Gluvias -

Thomas William b. abt 1809
Richard 1811-1854, m. Elizabeth Bryant 1835 in St. Gluvias, imm to Australia in 1838.
Mary 1812
John 1814
James Richard 1816
Betsey 1819
Amelia 1822-, imm to Australia in 1847, and married Thomas Addams in Adelaide the same year.
Edward 1823
Annie 1828-1873, m. Thomas Dunstan in St. Gluvias 1846, imm to Australia in 1847.
William Henry 1833
William Henry 1835

Thanks
Kylie

[Cornish Terrier]

A couple of things of interest here - and enough, I think, to get our 'bloodhounds' on the prowl.

First of all I have checked IGI for Thomas Pawley born about 1780 and there is not a hint of him.

Looks like another that is going to take us all some work.

But perhaps the more interesting is what I found in the 1851 Census.

There were less than 100 of the name PAWLEY represented with the earliest being born about 1785.

I have not yet checked variations such as PAWLY, PAULEY or others and I need to wonder if the name POOLEY might also be included here.

The other point worth a mention is that there were only a couple of these who had been born West of the Hayle and they were at Penzance.

So we need to ask - just what became of the PAWLEYS of Lelant and Gwithian who had been so prominent in the early days - prominent enough to be described in the Lelant Church History.

Given their wane in West Penwith I would suggest the possibility that the family at St Gluvias might well have been descended from those at Lelant and/or Gwithian.

Looking at PAULEY in 1851 there are two families at Gulval with the remainder mostly born St Germans. These are amongst but a few of the name in Cornwall.

Will start a bit of a search a little later today.

Anyone with any connections or ideas please get involved here and see if we can find some answers.

[Cornish Terrier]

Whilst this does not help with Kylie's St Gluvias query it may be of interest.

The PAWLEY family seem to have been amongst the Cornish 'gentry' and certainly mixed with some well-to-do families.

I have just been reading some information on the PHILLIPS family sent to me by Mike.
Much of this was to do with Leases from, in large part, members of the ARUNDELL family.

What is interesting is that what are, at the moment, two separate PHILLIPS families were involved in these leases.

On the one hand we have the family of Henry PHILLIPS of Gulval who originated from, and was buried at, Zennor.

And on the other hand we have the family of Gregory PHILLIPS, Rector of Phillack.

The youngest son of Gregory PHILLIPS, Thomas, married Joane PAWLEY at Lelant in 1670 and she was the daughter of Hugh, gentleman of Lelant, and grandaughter of Stephen PAWLEY, gent.

Stephen married Margaret TRESTEANE according to the Lelant Church History.

Margaret was daughter of Robert TRESTEANE and his wife Grace ARUNDELL.

A daughter of Stephen PAWLEY married John BORLASE whilst others married into the USTICKE and COREY families.

TRESTEANE - I must wonder now whether there is any connection with this family and of Joan TRESTEEN of Gulval who was the daughter of George and Constance VEALE.

Returning to PHILLIPS - Matthew, son of Henry PHILLIPS of Gulval (aforementioned) was married firstly to Elizabeth RALF at St Hilary in 1693 and secondly to Elizabeth BOSANKO at St Erth in 1715.

Matthew's eldest daughter was Elizabeth who, according to Vivian's Visitations, married John DAVIES at St Erth about 1720. (I have found no record of this marriage.)

Catherine, daughter of Matthew and Elizabeth, married Edward GIDDY in 1765 and their son was DAVIES GIDDY who later became DAVIES GILBERT of whom I think everyone has heard.

I think there might be one or two names in the above that might catch the ey of a few interested parties.

[chrisu]

Although this post goes back to 2008 - thought I'd throw in possiblilities from my (far from exhaustive) database of Lelant records:

PAWLEY Hugh Bur. 12 Feb 1673 Uny Lelant; gent
PAWLEY Joane Bur. 5 Feb 1700 Uny Lelant; spinster
PAWLIE Grace Bap. 12 Mar 1612 Uny Lelant; D/O Stevin
PAWLY Constance Bur. Feb 1669 Uny Lelant
PAWLY Hugh Mar. 24 Aug 1619 Uny Lelant, Joane SEARLE
PAWLY Jone Bap. 10 Dec 1617 Uny Lelant; D/O Stephen
PAWLY Margery D/O Stephen; Mar. 18 Sep 1622/23 Uny Lelant, John SOUTH, Vicar
PAWLY Mary Mar. 09/01/1696 Uny Lelant; Mr Samuel COLE
PAWLY Thomas Bap. 7 Nov 1619 Uny Lelant; S/O Hugh
PAWLY Thomas Bur. 28 Dec 1619 Uny Lelant; S/O Henry
PAWLY William S/O Hugh
PAWLYE Johan Mar. 31 Jan 1671 Uny Lelant, Thomas PHILLIPS, gent