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Post by Mal on Oct 25, 2008 5:59:36 GMT -5
Hi Mike, Cornishmaid suggested I ask you for some help!!! Please  I am still on the trail of a John Davies/Davis who married Ellen Bramble. John Davies would have been born 1840/1841 in the Penzance area. We know for a fact his father was William Davies, according to the census born in Paul 1800-ish. We are not sure about his mother but there is a strong theory to say that she was Mary Gendall. What I need is basically... 1. An exact date for the birth of John Davies (BMD failed up until now) 2. A confirmation of John's mother 3. Any information as to the parentage of William Davies of Paul. If you could find anything at the Record Office I would be eternally grateful!!!! Thanks in advance, Malcolm Davies |
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Post by myghaelangof on Oct 25, 2008 6:12:50 GMT -5
Hi Malcolm, I'll add it to my list. Can you let me have any census info you have on William, and John. Ages and places would be helpful, as there are a few parishes around the 'Penzance area'. How do we know William is 'of Paul'? Merasta-why Myghael |
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Post by Mal on Oct 25, 2008 6:19:37 GMT -5
Hi Mike this is the info, pasted quickly that I have.
William Davies
1841 -
Civil Parish of Gulval, living at Chyandour
William Davis, age 40, Ag. Labourer Born Paul
Mary Davis, age 40
Eliza Davis age14
William Davis age 11
Thomas Henry Davis age 5 married Eliza Jane Rowe, 1861 Madron
John Davis age 2
Edwin Davis age 1
Mary Davies of Chyandour aged 6, 24-Mar-1839
John Davies
Mariner in Merchant Marine.
1871 Census.
RG10/2341 (Part 2)
Foglio 80
Penzance
49,45 Queen Street,
1,John Davis,Head,M,30,,Sailor,Penzance Cornwall,,
,,,Ellen Davis,Wife,M,,30,,Penzance Cornwall,,
,,,John Davis,Son,,5,,Scholar,Penzance Cornwall,,
,,,Walter Davis,Son,,4,,Scholar,Penzance Cornwall,,
,,,William Davis,Son,,4m,,,Penzance Cornwall,
In 1851, they are at North Street, parish of Madron, Penzance.
William Davis is now a General Labourer, born at Paul, Cornwall
Wife Mary and sons William, Thomas and John are living with them. The sons all listed as being born at Penzance.
In 1861 William and Mary are are living at Ways Court, Penzance, with Thomas H Davies.
By 1871 a John Davis age 30, occupation: Sailor, is married to Ellen, and they are living at Queen Street, Penzance with children John age 5, Walter age 4 and William age 4 months. This John Davis was born at Penzance.
The family disappear in 1881, but in 1891 Ellen Davis is listed as wife, age 48, born Penzance, and with her are children William H, age 20, Labourer General; Alfred J, age 16, Stone Mason; and Ellen, age 12, Scholar.
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John Davies was a mariner and I found this on the 1881
Individual Record 1881 British Census
John DAVIES Household... this is the "Chyandour" at Briton Ferry.
Birth Year <1842>
Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England
Age 39
Occupation A B Seaman
Marital Status M <Married> Head of Household Barzillai BECKERLEG (Captain of the Ship)
Source Information:
Vessel "Chyandour"
Census Place Briton Ferry, Glamorgan, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342287
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5342 / 121
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Post by Mal on Oct 25, 2008 6:21:04 GMT -5
Ps. Remember we are not sure about John Davies' mother it's the strongest theory we have and seems to fit in even if the ages are slightly out!!!!
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Post by myghaelangof on Oct 29, 2008 14:03:18 GMT -5
Hi Malcolm, I have some info for you, but must confess I got my wires slightly crossed. I started looking for the marriage of William and Mary, but then started looking for Williams birth and forgot about John! Sorry.  Anyway, I searched Gulval marriages 1820-1837, and also Paul 1816-1832 and did find the following: Paul: 7 June 1831 James DAVIES = Lucy Ann MATTHEWS, witness Christopher DAVIES Paul: 13 June 1826 William Semmens DAVIES = Mary Semmens BODINAR, witness Christopher DAVIES. This marriage is timed nicely for the oldest child to be 14 on the 1841 census. I may have some info on William's baptism by Friday for you. Have a good 'un, Mike  |
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Post by Mal on Oct 30, 2008 7:47:54 GMT -5
Thanks mate---
NB We believe William to have married Mary Gendall and to have been from Paul- so that William Semmens Davies and Mary Bodinnar one has come up before but been discounted... again it is not certain.
Thanks again, keep up the good work!!!
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Post by myghaelangof on Nov 2, 2008 16:38:52 GMT -5
Searched following for baptism of John Davi(e)s to no avail:
Paul 1842-1835
Madron 1842-1837
Gulval 1842-1822
Penzance 6/1841- 1/1837
No Davis' in Madron or Penzance.
For Paul 1840-1842 were baptisms to John & Elizabeth DAVIS, James & Lucy DAVIS, Christopher & Mary DAVIS.
For Gulval baptisms to William & Mary DAVIS for Thomas Henry 7-9-1836, and 24-5-1833 Mary Jane.
Suggest you try CFHS indexes.
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Post by Mal on Nov 3, 2008 8:53:04 GMT -5
CFHS indexes?
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Post by myghaelangof on Nov 3, 2008 9:46:01 GMT -5
CORNWALL FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY. They have extensive indexes of births marriages and burials. For a small fee they'll issue you with a list of all John Davis's and John Davies's baptised in Cornwall. The fee depends how long a list it is. I obtained a printout of all Cook baptisms in their Cornwall indexes for £5.00 They have a website: www.cornwallfhs.com with contact info. Regards Mike |
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Post by Mal on Nov 5, 2008 9:20:01 GMT -5
I'll do it directly |
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Post by Mal on Nov 5, 2008 9:20:28 GMT -5
PS. I forgot to say thanks for your trouble too!
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