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Post by myghaelangof on Oct 24, 2008 7:52:03 GMT -5
Hi folks, Getting my act back together after a bit of an absence and upheavals! I'm booked into Truro for a couple of days next week (29th/30th) so if anyone has any snippets they want looking up, let me know. Hopefully get up to the Cornish Studies Centre as well, having several inquest reports to look for. Ian - any Phillips documents that you know of to look at Regards Mike
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Post by white on Oct 24, 2008 9:11:22 GMT -5
Hi Mike, Thank you for your kind offer. Only one thing I have failed to find. A burial for George White 1847-1861 at St.Just. He was born 1810. But please,only look if it is no trouble. I know howlong these "easy" searches can sometimes take. Thanks again, Roy
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Post by cornishmaid on Oct 24, 2008 16:11:32 GMT -5
Hi Mike, and thank you for your generous offer If at all possible, would there be any chance of looking up something for me at the Cornwall Record Office? The online reference of the document given by the CRO is AP/R/4615, and it is the Will of William Rowe, Joiner of St Ives, 1847. I would be most grateful if you did have time to have a look at it. If it's too long, or you don't get time, then I completely understand. Have completely hit a brick wall with this line. Thank you again, and if there's anything I can do in return just let me know. Kind regards, Rebecca
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Post by myghaelangof on Oct 24, 2008 17:58:04 GMT -5
Hello Roy and Rebecca, Will be able to look at both of your requests, no problem. Its always good to have a mental break from your own research. Roy, I have had a look at West Penwith Resources which lists burials for St Just 1837 - 1849 and no George White listed, so I'll start at 1850 and work forwards. Rebecca, Would you be able to look for a newspaper report in the Cornish Studies Library? From a death certificate: 5 June 1847 Richard Warren miner 48 of Truthwall (St.Just) 'accidental death from an internal injury to his head' informant Wm Hichens coroner St Ives. Would like to find out a bit more if possible. Might just save me a trip and I can lay on the beach on Thursday instead. lol
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Post by cornishmaid on Oct 25, 2008 4:59:36 GMT -5
Thank you so much Of course I don't mind having a look at the newspapers for you regarding Richard Warren. Will get on to it as soon as I can. As for the beach.... rather you than me. Take a big jumper with you ;D
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 25, 2008 9:25:25 GMT -5
Hi Mike - glad to see you 'up and about' again! Nothing springs to mind immediately exept, of course, Wills, Wills and more Wills. I have only been dealing with supplied information mostly (e.g. abstracts) when it comes to Wills so have been reliant on others. But you probably already have that on your agenda. Have you checked the A2A catalogue - if not I will check the references I found to see if there is anything that might be useful. Have been flat out moving and then (still) trying to sort out the new abode so have not done a heckuva lot in the last few weeks unfortunately. Let me know about A2A and if I think of anything else I will post a message straight away. Ian
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Post by white on Oct 25, 2008 12:54:30 GMT -5
Thank you Mike. Roy
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Post by myghaelangof on Oct 25, 2008 18:07:03 GMT -5
Hi there Ian, Yes, lots of wills. But I looked at my main targets for Phillips wills back in August when i went, hence the Lucy Phillips thread. If there's anything you can locate on a2a it would be a great help as I'm out rallying in Sherwood Forest all day Sunday, and then its a good 7 hour drive on Monday! Yippee its holiday time.....and its not going to snow like the pundits say!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 26, 2008 8:00:12 GMT -5
Mike - have sent all I have from A2A via email as attachments.
If I think of anything else I will post it asap.
Let me know if everything arrives ok.
Ian
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Post by myghaelangof on Oct 28, 2008 13:31:48 GMT -5
Hi guys,
A relaxed afternoon was had in the record office today.
Roy: I searched St Just Parish burials, St Just Wesleyan burials both for 1850-1861, and also Pendeen burials from inception in 1854 until June 1861, and found no George WHITE. Lots of Whites buried whose abode was given as Boscaswell, Bosjewan, Portheras, Trewellard, Dowran, Carnyorth, etc etc but no George.
Cornishmaid: The 1847 'Will' of William ROWE, joiner of St Ives, turns out to be an oath of administration the important parts being: Mary ROWE 'the widow of William ROWE late of the Borough of St Ives, joiner deceased, effects sworn under £200 on 25th May 1842, who died on or about 25th May 1842 and made no will as far as you know and you are the lawful widow' Oath taken 8th March 1847 (5 years after death) and signed/witnessed by Mary ROWE, William ROWE and Mary Bennetts ROWE.
I will try and look at the Davies query tomorrow, and have a document table booked for Friday for all those lovely Phillips docs... Best wishes to all, Mike
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Post by Mal on Oct 28, 2008 16:52:10 GMT -5
Fingers crossed.... Good luck!!!
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Post by cornishmaid on Oct 28, 2008 17:57:54 GMT -5
Brilliant work Mike ;D. Can't get back any further on my Rowe side than this particular William, and couldn't narrow his death down owing to the number of William Rowes abounding in Cornwall . Hopefully this infomation will help enormously. Thank you so so much for all your help . Tidy! Just one question for all you knowledgeable people out there.. why would an Oath be taken from a Widow 5 years after her husband's death
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 28, 2008 20:08:35 GMT -5
It appears that nothing was done about administering the Estate at or soon after William died and it was left until 1847 for some reason.
In any case of Administration I think the major participant would be bound to swear under oath that all details were correct.
But the main question of 'why 5 years' may not be answerable.
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Post by myghaelangof on Oct 29, 2008 13:51:15 GMT -5
My guess on the administration of William Rowe taking 5 years is that his widow didnt do anything until she absolutely had to! Maybe she was busy with life, or just wasn't up to handling it until push came to shove for some reason. I have seen delays of several years before. Mike
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Post by trencrom on Oct 31, 2008 4:59:21 GMT -5
I agree with the two previous posters -- can think of two or three such cases that I have come aqcross, one was about 6 years late, the other about 10, the other about 20 (!) No explanations for any of them.
Trencrom
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