ROWE/WARREN of Madron

[Cornish Terrier]

A little problem for me and also a few items of possible interest to others.

Firstly if anyone should be looking for the burial of CONSTANCE WARREN nee MATTHEWS baptised St Levan 5th September 1794 d/o James MATTHEWS and Elizabeth (nee TONKIN) then I can help you.

She was buried at Madron 10th April 1867 age 72

This is from the Madron OPRs where she is indexed as Constance KERROW!

My 'little problem' is now the ROWE family.

Rebecca ROWE married John TREWHELLA 24th March 1833 at Madron

I found out some time ago that she was baptised at Madron 25th April 1813 d/o Thomas and Mary ROWE of Castle Horneck

It is Thomas and Mary that I need some assistance if some kind soul would be prepared to do so.

John TREWHELLA came out to Australia in 1857 aboard the 'Indiana' as far as I can tell. (It is a little confusing as the passenger list shows him as being 'single' but I can find no other candidate.)

Rebecca followed and arrived in January 1860 aboard the 'Hilton'.
With her were daughter Mary Jane WILLIAMS and her family and also a MYSTERY LYDIA WILLIAMS, age 19, of whom I can find nothing to connect with this family.

John and Rebecca's son John remained in Cornwall having married Alice KING at Madron 1st December 1855.

Another passenger travelling with Rebecca in 1860 was her nephew James Rowe WARREN.

I since discovered that he was the son of Rebecca's sister Elizabeth who had married Richard WARREN at Madron 24th December 1842.

Richard was baptised at Paul 2nd June 1822 son of William and Constance WARREN.

I located the marriage:-

William WARREN, widower
Catherine MATHEWS
2nd April 1819 at Paul

So William was previously married!

I have also since found details of that.

William WARREN
Catherine JOSE
18th August 1805 at St Levan

From this marriage William had four children of whom, for the purpose of this excercise, only SALLY is important.

Located a burial for Catherine WARREN age 36 of Paul 2nd September 1817 at St Levan and determined this was probably William's wife.

The proof came in the 1841 Census.
William was at Landithy Higher, Madron with wife Constance and children and amongst those children was daughter SALLY then aged 33.

BTW William and Constance had a total of 12 children giving William 16 altogether!

Constance' death is recorded in FreeBMD in the June Qtr of 1867 with her age listed as 71.

In the Madron OPRs burial as above and age stated as 72.

If anyone can offer some assistance with Thomas and Mary ROWE I would be grateful.

Meanwhile I will be doing some research of my own.

[Cornish Terrier]

I neglected to mention in my last that I am also interested in the family of William WARREN.

He was, according to Census records, born at St Just in Penwith about 1781.

William was buried at Madron 18th August 1869, age 87 of Parc An Growes.

[newlyn]

Although I don't think this is the family line that you want I have Warrens in my family tree from Camborne.

George Warren b.1690 d. 1743
married Catherine ? b.1692

One of their children Constance b.1722 married Thomas Trenwith b.1720.
George and Catherine had two Williams one born 1728 and died 1728, the other William was born 1730. There were other children.
I have more details if you want them.

[newlyn]

Sally Warren b.17.1.1808 - St Levan
parents William and Catherine.

Also another Sally Warren b.1837

[Cornish Terrier]

Thanks Newlyn - I'll look into that.

The St Levan one would be closer to the mark and possibly connected given William was born St Just.

Will check anyway and see what transpires.

CT

[mnauen]

Hi there. I am also interested in William Warren b about 1781. I am descended from Catherine Warren born 1813 daughter of William Warren and Catherine Jose. She would have been a younger sister of Sally. My problem is to identify the parents of William. You can read more about the family if you go to 'St Just Journeying' and click of 'Warrens of St Just'.
mnauen

[Cornish Terrier]

Nice to see you back with us.

Now that we seem to be getting more people on the case we might be able to collaborate and throw around some ideas/information and finally come up with an identity for the mysterious William Warren.

Will work more on it in the coming days after I hope to be sorted out a little better here.

CT

[wilma]

I may have found a possible connection for Thomas Rowe/ Father of Rebecca Rowe . Her parents being Thomas Rowe, Mary HAll .
There is a Thomas bap 3.11.1773 in Sennen. The timeframe fits but not sure if the location at Sennen makes this a realistic possibility. This Thomas is the son of William Rowe and Rebecca Williams who may be related/Daughter to Dionysius Williams and Rebecca of Sennen.
Another possibility is Thomas son of James Rowe and Constance 3.11.1771 St Just in Penwith .

Still trying to find this very elusive family.
Wilma

[Cornish Terrier]

Hi Wilma - yes, I would think the 1773 baptism at Sennen would be definitely worth pursuing as it gives a certain link for the name of Rebecca.

Work to be done of course but definitely a possibility.

CT

[rhonda]

Hi, have just found this website.  I am  the gr.granddaughter  of James Rowe Warren who migrated to Australia mid 1800's. Gr grandmother Sara Jane Ely who had 15 children and James' 2nd wife had 3 making a total of 18 kids to James.  James made his money from exporting fruit to europe  and was a pioneer in the Castlemaine district of Victoria.

My grandfather was Hastings Warren whose son Ronald Hastings Warren was my father.


Valerie Price-Currer NSW.

[Cornish Terrier]

Hello Valerie - and yes, 18 children it was for James Rowe Warren. I have them all in my database along with many of the next generation including your father. Last time I updated the family was back in 2007 and most of my information is from the Victorian BDM Indexes.

CT