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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 12, 2013 17:00:25 GMT -5
Welcome to Penwith Genealogy - I am sure Mary will be right onto this very soon and will be getting into discussion with you. CT
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Post by marychown on Apr 13, 2013 4:35:35 GMT -5
Hi there Chyangof,
I think that you are Liz and that we have been in touch before regarding the de Rouffignac family. It is indeed a coincidence that the French lady who has recently come to stay with you is descended from the de Rouffignac family. The Newlyn branch are all descended from William de Rouffignac (1729-1791) who together with his wife Elizabeth nee Miscally settled in Newlyn in 1774/1775. William was the son of Dr. Guy de Rouffignac (1683-1747) and his wife Alice nee Kerrill and the grandson of the Huguenot refugee pastor Jacob de Rouffignac (1640-1721) and his wife Madeleine nee de Bonafous who fled to England with their young family following the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes in 1685. Jacob and his family first settled in the Hertfordshire/Bedfordshire area and later in London. Jacob de Rouffignac was born in La Rochefoucauld, Angoumois, France, the son of Thomas de Rouffignac of La Rochefoucauld and his wife Marie nee La Motte. Later Jacob de Rouffignac was a Huguenot minister at Puycasquier near Mauvezin, Armagnac where his first four children Jean, Suzanne, Pierre and Guidon (Guy) were born.
Records have shown that the La Rochefoucauld area was home to several wealthy Huguenot families and following the enactment of the Edict of Nantes in 1598 - in the opening years of the 17th Century during the reign of Henri lV - a Protestant College to train ministers was established there. These wealthy families (Goys, Pasquet, Dulignon, Renouard, de Rouffignac, Villemandy, Albert and Saunier to name but a few) were benefactors of the College. In 1666 following the persecution of the Huguenots in France the College ceased to exist.
I am myself descended through two lines from William de Rouffignac who is my 5th great-grandfather - his son Francis being my 4th great-grandfather and his daughter Elizabeth being my 4th great-grandmother.
Regards,
Mary
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Post by chyangof on Apr 13, 2013 9:39:16 GMT -5
Hi Mary Yes, I'm sure we have very probably been in touch before, possibly through the Rootsweb lists. Yes, I have all the information on the Rouffignacs. I am determined to try and find out where my HelpXer fits into our equation. She knows all about the historical part, her English isn't too great but I'm hoping she can tell me something. French research is not easy so she may not have her ancestral line but she does know exactly where she came from. She tells me her grandfather was Conte Hugues de Rouffignac. Her mother was born 1936 and her grandfather was born c.1895. It would seem the family that remained in France are still wealthy today...and she's cleaning my kitchen!! Now I have their tree but I can't see our Jacob or his father Thomas! I'm wondering if only those who remained in France have been included but that doesn't really account for it all. gw2.geneanet.org/jlfder?lang=en&m=N&v=de+ROFFIGNAC - obviously they are all in the same area. Let me know what you think. Liz
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Post by marychown on Apr 13, 2013 11:22:02 GMT -5
Thanks for getting back so promptly, Liz, and for including the link to the family tree. One thing that I note right away is that on that tree the name is de ROFFIGNAC all the way through and not de ROUFFIGNAC - i.e. even in fairly late generations in the 20th century all descendants are named as de ROFFIGNAC. Therefore, I would say that it refers to a completely different branch of what was several centuries ago probably the same family. I have copies of the wills of both Jacob and William de Rouffignac and in Jacob's will written on 3 August 1714 our Rouffignac family is definitely spelled de ROUFFIGNAC. In fact, in his will Jacob named his father as Thomas de Rouffignac and his mother as Marie de la Motte and said that he was born at La Rochefoucauld in Angoumois, France. In 1685 at the time of his arrival in England, Jacob had a family crest with the family name as de ROUFFIGNAC.
Mary
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Post by chyangof on Apr 13, 2013 15:55:33 GMT -5
Hi Mary
I think that whoever wrote that tree chose to leave them all as ROFFIGNAC. I know that Laure actually spells the family name as ROUFFIGNAC, the same way we spell it and spells her grandfather's name the same way, because of that it took us ages to find on the internet because she wasn't looking for a different spelling. I know that even those descendants of Jacob in England have various spellings...but I ignore that and spell everyone the same way! Same with BODINNAR!!! They certainly all lived in the very remote area. Liz
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Post by marychown on Apr 14, 2013 2:03:53 GMT -5
Hello again Liz,
I have tried to reply to you by personal message via this forum, but for some reason I was unable to attach a document - also on this open board I came across the same problem of not being able to attach anything. Therefore, I have sent an email and attachments to what I hope is still your email address.
Mary
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