Troon Trewren etc

[Sssence]

Hi Folks

Trying to sort out the Tresise/Trezise info I was given by my uncle.

Looking for confirmation of Elizabeth Tresise to Roger Troon married 9 Feb 1771 Ludgvan

I have these children to them
Mary 1787 possible marriage to John Jennings 1807
Jenefer 1783
Elizabeth 1775 and 1778
Ann 1772 possible marriage to John Roberts 1797
Grace 1792
Maybe others ?
Jenefer married Joseph Trewren 1803
children are Josepeh Trewren 1806
Henry 1817
Jenefer 1804
Mary 1813

Any suggestions welcomed

Thanks
Sssence

[newlyn]

I have just checked on the Cornwall Phillimore Marriage Records and
Roger Troon married Elizabeth Tresize of St Hilary 9/2/1771 in Ludgvan.
Mary Troon married John Jennings 24/10/1807 in Ludgvan
Ann Troon married John Roberts 25/2/1797 in Ludgvan
Jenefer Troon married Joseph Trewren 16/7/1803 in Ludgvan.

Hope this is of some help.
Best wishes
Newlyn

[newlyn]

Can anyone help me find ancestors of John Wallis b. 1809 and Elizabeth Trewren b.1811.
They were married 1830 location ?
They had a son James Wallis b.1835.

Thankyou
Newlyn

[cornishmaid]

Hi Newlyn

Have found the marriage for you:

Parish: Paul - John Wallis & Elizabeth Trouren, Date: 5 Jun 1830

The marriage is also listed on the West Penwith Resources, ie:
5 Jun 1830 by Banns
John Wallis [Mark]
Elizabeth Trewren [Mark]
Witnesses: Pascoe Richards, Richard Pentreath

Will have a look for more information for you when I get chance. Is John's age correct? I found a John and Elizabeth Wallis living in Paul in the 1841 and 1851. In 1841 John is aged 40,living in Paul, and an Ag Lab, in the 1851 census he is age 60 and living in St Buryan. This would put his age between 1790-1800 ish. Will have a look again later for them if I get more time tonight.

[newlyn]

That was quick Cornishmaid.
Thankyou very much.
Would never have found that spelling of Trewren

Any other info is gratefully received.

Newlyn

[newlyn]

As far as I know John Wallis age is correct.

John and Elizabeths son James was married to Elizabeth Kevern b.1841.
They had a daughter Elizabeth Wallis b.1875. (Lily)
This is my Gran on my Mums side.

Many thanks

Newlyn

[cornishmaid]

Well, I think I have found the family through 1841 to 1871, although John's age keeps changing with each census .

In 1841 at Chyenhall, Paul we have the following members of the Wallis family:
John age 40 - Ag Lab; Elizabeth age 30; John age 9, William age 7, James age 3, Jane age 5months, and Mary age 7.

In 1851 they are at Oakhill, St Buryan, surname spelt Wallish:
John age 60, Ag Lab; Elizabeth, age 43 (born St Just); James age 13; Elizabeth age 6; Jane age 5 and Byas? age 3 (born St Buryan) Apart from Elizabeth and Byas the rest of the family were born at Paul.

In 1861 the family are back at Chyenhall Moor in Paul:
John age 52, Ag Lab; Elizabeth age 50; Elizabeth age 18 - Dairy Maid; James age 22 - Ag Lab; Mary age 9.
(No sign of Byas or Jane.)

Son James then gets married on 4 March 1865, ie:
James Wallish, 28, Labourer of Mousehole (mark) (Father: John Wallish, Labourer)
Elizabeth Ann Kevern, 24,of Mousehole (Father: James Kevern, Labourer)
Witnesses: Thomas Eddy, Margaret Kevern

So in the 1871 at Clifton Place, Paul are:
James Wallis, age 39, Labourer; Elizabeth J age 30, wife
with children: John J, age 4 and William age 1 (both born at Mousehole). With the family are Elizabeth Keveren, Mother in law, Widow, age 53, Fish Buyer and Lilla Botherias, Visitor, age 8 months.

I think I have also found James' mother Elizabeth in the 1871 census at Maddron Square, St Just with the Atticote family, ie James age 28, Tin Miner; Ann age 28; Ann W age 7 and Liley age 1. Elizabeth is listed as mother in law, Widow, age 61, born St Just.

Would need to find James Atticote's marriage to confirm he married a Wallish. If this is the right Elizabeth Wallis, then husband John must have died between 1861 and 1871. There are a number of deaths registered between these dates, as follows:

December Qtr 1861/September Qtr 1864/September Qtr 1865 - no ages given.
December Qtr 1866, age 77 (b. 1789c.)
March Qtr 1868, age 81 (b. 1787c.)
John William Wallis, died Sept Qtr 1870, age 66 (b. 1804c.)

Not much help I suppose with John changing his age on each census

Any good?

[cornishmaid]

In addition, have just found the following marriages at Paul:

5 Apr 1862 by Banns
John Wallish 30 Labourer of Chyenhall [Mark] (Father: John Wallish, Labourer)
Jane Trembath Blackwell 26 of Drift, Sancreed (Father: William Blackwell, Labourer)
Witnesses: William Blackwell, Elizabeth Blackwell

21 Feb 1863 by Banns
William Snell 22 Labourer of Bologas (Father: Edward Snell, Gardener)
Jane Wallis 19 of Chyenhall [Mark] (Father: John Wallis, Labourer)
Witnesses: James Trezise, James Wallis

No sign of an Ann Wallis marrying a James "Atticote" as yet..

Update: A James Thomas ADDICOAT married a Nanny Wallis in December Qtr of 1863, Penzance RD . The birth of first child Ann Wallis Addicoat was registered in March Qtr of 1864 ; "Liley" was registered I think as Lilly Goninan Addicoat, born March Quarter of 1870. There could have been (and probably were) more children born between these two.

Now we just need to confirm that we are following the right family of John Wallis and Elizabeth Trewren. Would be grateful if someone could double check this, as it's late and I'm going cross eyed

[Cornish Terrier]

'Tis ok m'dear - I will do a bit of poking around for you and confirm (or otherwise ) what you have found.

Does look promising though and, before I got to the end of the note, I was going to suggest looking for ADDICOAT.

Hopefully have more in a couple of hours or so.