Hi Cornishmaid; firstly thank you for the lookup offers, it is much appreciated and I promise not to unduly impose should this arise.
I believe there is some real progress here on these folk (gr-gr-gr-grandparents of mine). There is a burial of Martha OLDS 27 Feb 1827 aged 84 (http://west-penwith.org.uk/burbur5.htm really useful resources for those researching St Buryan) which makes her born 1743. This approximates to the detail for Martha TREMBATH. The fact that they named a child Martha, as you point out, is significant. I doubt there was a second marriage because the old guy died a few years later in 1833. I believe the Mary is actually Mary SEMMENS who married William the butcher. The IGI records this as submitted info so cannot comment on the source. There is about a 20 year age difference. Cannot find any recorded children for this couple.
Post by cornishmaid on Dec 16, 2008 5:58:06 GMT -5
Not a problem at all with look-ups... any excuse to visit the Cornwall Centre is most welcome
I think the possible second marriage of William referred to William and Martha's son William (the one who married Sabina Lanyon). I was getting myself all confused last night about these two Williams as well. Would seem a bit odd that William went from being a labourer to a butcher, but stranger things happen at sea
I've got so many brick walls I could build a Mansion!
Thanks to both of you. There are more "co-incidences" that I tend to use to pinpoint actual lines in those far off times when we lack Census confirmation.
My gr-grandmother was Mary Ann OLDS (1850 - 1923) daughter of William OLDS and Charlotte LLEWELLIN (formerly LUGG and widowed 1848). Census records show William born 1819 which corresponds with a bapt record for a child of William and Sabina. Now this couple named their first daughter Martha as mentioned before and their last daughter Marianne.
Regarding William and Mary SEMONS. There is an OLDS family in the St Buryan area that has a long line of butchers. I have seen records for Peter. I believe that this is the family that persists today and is related to Christine OLDS of the Butchery in Chapel Road, St Just. They also have links with my OATS family in that a son of Peter OLDS that started that business in the 1800's married Maria OATS, the daughter if the very famous Capt Francis OATS (1848 - 1919) of de Beers Consolidated Mines.
It's not really a Phillimore problem I now, but I may as well put it here. I am stuck with a marriage between William Davies and Mary Gendall/Kendall at Madron on 21st May 1826- a bit late for Philimores and a bit early for GRO/BMD!!! The only reference I have for this marriage is an IGI file, at least "confirmed" but I can't find any other records at all. The IGI record gives the source as
Thanks for the confirmation, I hoped that there may be some additional information, witnesses, banns, licence, which particular church or anything that might be able to add something to the information that I have.
I am now in the phase of going through the "established" tree with a fine-toothed comb trying to get as many details as possible.
Thanks for the help once again!
As one brickwall falls another bugger puts one up!!!!!!!!!!!!