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Post by gandolf on May 17, 2008 21:28:37 GMT -5
Trying to sort out the many descendants branches of the Hampton family (can see now why so much interest here in them  ) I have found some research on the web that indicates that Thomas Hampton (chr. 11 Sep 1774 at Gwinear, son of Edward Hampton and Ann Michell) was married in 1804 to a Mary Glasson. Given that the same researcher has Thomas's aunt Jane Hampton (chr. 21 Sep 1740, dau of Edward Hampton and Ann Wearn) married 11 Sep 1762 at Gwinear to Robert Glasson, this would at first suggest that Thomas Hampton's marriage is reasonable. My problem is that I have found a burial for a Thomas Hampton, son of Edward and Ann, on the 29th April 1779 at Gwinear. This Thomas was aged 4 & 1/2 years, making it clear that this is the right Thomas. So the question is, did a Thomas Hampton marry Mary Glasson in 1804, and if so who was he? |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 18, 2008 11:01:44 GMT -5
'A' Thomas Hampton did mary 'A' Mary Glasson at Gwinear 28th September 1804.
I have found three children for this couple in the IGI - James 1806, Ralph 1808 and Edward 1811.
Assuming that there was only one Thomas and Mary Hampton about the area at that time then this is reasonable and there are likely other children baptised after 1812.
It would appear that Ralph married someone by the name of Eleanor around 1830 and had 10 children at Gwinear, St Hilary, Ludgvan, Liskeard and St Neot according to the Census.
You will notice that Edward is the third son and is preceeded by James and Ralph suggesting that it would be more likely (if Thomas has followed the old naming convention) that his father was a James or a Ralph.
Don't know any more about this lot at the moment.
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Post by gandolf on May 19, 2008 6:38:31 GMT -5
Like so many other families, the Hamptons seem to have gone out of their way to be frustrating to modern day researchers!  Every second person is either John, Edward or James, Ann or Mary (well maybe every fifth person). My initial inclination was to agree with you regarding naming patterns, but I am not seeing any clear patterns within the family, which does not help with the solution. While the male names have some semblance of old naming patterns, it is somewhat confused, possibly by the fact that in many cases father, son and grandson all have the same name. With girls names there is even less clear evidence of a naming pattern to my mind. The situation is not helped by the fact that I have so far been unable to find any sources for baptisms or marriages for Gwinear in the mid to late 1700's. The name Ralph appears to be a new addition to the Hampton family at this time (similar to the appearance of Tobias in another line at this time) so I can only presume that it has come from the mother's family. Without any evidence at this point, I am leaning toward one of two possibilities, both of which amount to a similar relationship as in my earlier note: ie that the Thomas in question who married Mary Glasson is still a nephew of Jane Hampton who married Robert Glasson. The first possibility (and more likely on the basis of documented evidence) is that the Thomas in question is Thomas Hampton, christened 1777 at Gwinear, son of Thomas Hampton and Jennifer Michell. The second possibility (totally unproven and with documented support I know) is that James Hampton (chr. 1735, son of Edward Hampton and Anne Wearne) MAY have married and MAY been the father of a Thomas born around the mid 1770's. And that it is this "unproven" Thomas who appears in the records as marrying Mary Glasson. Given the lack of documented evidence, I can't really accept this. On the basis of the little documented records I have been able to locate so far, I am forced to assume that my first option is the more likely, given that I can prove that Thomas, son of Thomas and Jennifer Hampton was indeed born and christened. That being said, I still have no clear evidence to assume either option is valid and that there is not a third Thomas Hampton running around without a spouse at the time. There was certainly enough of them alive in the late 18th century! Although most have spouses who are probably alive, taking them out of the picture (I presume - could be wrong). |
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Post by cornishglassons on May 24, 2008 15:39:40 GMT -5
Trying to sort out the many descendants branches of the Hampton family (can see now why so much interest here in them ) I have found some research on the web that indicates that Thomas Hampton (chr. 11 Sep 1774 at Gwinear, son of Edward Hampton and Ann Michell) was married in 1804 to a Mary Glasson. Given that the same researcher has Thomas's aunt Jane Hampton (chr. 21 Sep 1740, dau of Edward Hampton and Ann Wearn) married 11 Sep 1762 at Gwinear to Robert Glasson, this would at first suggest that Thomas Hampton's marriage is reasonable. Hi Gandolf, I have just come across this Hampton family in my recent Glasson research, and although I can't answer your specific question I can add another Glasson/Hampton marriage into the mix. You rightly say that Jane Hampton married Robert Glasson on 11 Sep 1762. However, I also have Jane's elder sister Anne Hampton (bap. 24 Sept 1748) marrying Robert Glasson's elder brother John (bap. 11 Jan 1746) on 25 Dec 1756 in Crowan. It's almost a tradition that Glasson siblings also married siblings (does that make sense?) and I've come across it many times before epecially with the Glassons from Crowan. That's all I know for now, but I am about to do a little more delving into these families and will let you know if anything comes up which you may be interested in. Best wishes, Carole ps I also came across Edward Hampton Senior's will dated 1742 and only four children are mentioned, Edward, Thomas, Ann & Jane. |
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Post by gandolf on May 28, 2008 15:37:19 GMT -5
Hi Carole
From what I have seen of the Glassons is that tradition may not be a strong enough word to describe their marriage patterns!
Yes you are right, Ann Hampton did marry John Glasson (although the christening dates you mention were a decade earlier in 1738 and 1735/6 respectively).
I am still working through Ann & John's descendants at the moment (not my direct line but of interest) and a large percentage of their descendants emigrated during the early to mid 19th century to either the USA or Australia.
The Australian bunch who settled in the Orange/Bathurst area of NSW were execellent at either marrying a cousin (varying levels of closeness). If one married out into a new family, then more often than not various siblings would also marry into the same family.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2008 14:05:05 GMT -5
Hi
Not my direct line either but this family (John & Ann) does contain an individual James (baptised 176 in Crowan).
This is one of my mysterious connections that I am not sure whether I have correct or not. If you have this man recorded can you tell me - did James marry Mary BLIGHT on the 5th February 1787 at Redruth?
Lannanta
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Post by cornishglassons on May 30, 2008 2:50:20 GMT -5
Hi Gandolf, I'm writing from memory here as due to a computer crash I have lost all my family tree information from the last year (a huge lesson reminding me I should have backed up the info!!) including the notes and photos. Anyway, it's interesting that the Hampton/Glasson offspring emigrated to Australia also. As you know 8 of the children of John and Mary Glasson of Breage emigrated to NSW from 1829. The only surviving sibling of theirs not to emigrate was Eliza who married George Treweeke of Trequean Farm, Breage, however if I am remembering correctly at least two of George and Eliza's sons did later emigrate. Both sons, for the first year, went to live and work with an uncle and yes, they both married that uncles's daughter!! I have been wondering if these cousins marriages (and others) were semi-arranged by their parents - 'come to Oz and marry my daughter'? As I say I have lost my tree (sob!) so cannot remember what the relationship between the Hampton offspring and the Glassons from Breage offspring would be. But with you now telling me the Hampton offspring also emigrated, I am wondering if there were any more marriages with their Glasson 'cousins'? Have you come across any. Actually this isn't my direct line either but I too am fascinated by them. Can I ask you though, the Mary Glasson who marrried Thomas Hampton in 1804 - what branch of the Glassons did she belong to, do you know her parents? I'd be interested to know. Many thanks. Best wishes, Carole PS thanks for the correction of my dates |
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Post by georgec on May 30, 2008 12:53:18 GMT -5
Hi Carol.
As regard your computer problem.
Two things come to mind.
Find a local computer wizz kid and ask if its possible to take out your old hard drive and install it in to your new computer as a slave drive while not losing any data from it , or get he to put it in a external hard drive box and then connect via usb2 to your new computer and use as a slave drive.
If your hard drive is still intact re: not reformatted then all of your data, files, folders and pictures etc should still be intact on that old hard drive.
If you have a PC world or another local computer shop they should be able to rescue all of your info from your hard drive or know some one who can.
What they will do is take your hard drive out and connect it to another computer which will have software to read your hard drive and then burn it to DVD data disks so you can then reinstall your info from the disks to your new computer.
They may ask you what you like copied (if I was you I would say all the files and folders ) and burned them to the DVDs.
They may ask you if you would like your old hard reformatted after you have what you need, thats up to you but if you do you could then use your old hard drive as a slave drive. But don't forget what ever you decide to do take the old hard drive away with you.
I hope this has been a bit of a help for you and you get you info back soon.
Good luck
George
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 30, 2008 15:09:01 GMT -5
You will find them in Phillimore & Taylor of which I have a hard copy. (Dates covered are 1560-1812)
With very few exceptions the surname of the wife is not mentioned until the 1720's.
8th July 1620 John GLASEN & Elizabeth his wife
1st April 1755 James MITCHEL & Grace GLASSON, of Camborne
11th September 1762 Robert GLASON & Jane HAMPTON
30th June 1766 Paul MICHELL & Dorothy GLASSON
2nd April 1774 Matthew TELLIAM & Mary GLASSON
24th Apri 1775 John GLASSON & Alice GILBERT, of Sithney
10th September 1780 Edward GLASSON & Rebecca HARVEY
27h December 1794 Stephen GLASSON & Martha OATS
5th July 1801 Joh INRAM & Ann GLASSON
10th June 1804 Edward GLASSON, w., & Elizabetha TREVENA, w.
28th September 1804 Thomas HAMPTON & Mary GLASSON
28t October 1810 John HARVEY & Rebecca GLASSON
17th November 1810 Edward GLASSON & Elizabeth HARVEY
Whilst it is certainly possible, I don't believe I have missed any although I must say that there appear to have been no entries for 1805.
There are plenty of Hamptons, of course, so let me know if you would like me to look them up for you.
Ian
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 30, 2008 15:14:45 GMT -5
Whilst on the subjectof GLASSONs at Gwinear I will throw this one at you for comment.  Please see more complete details in "Quick Problem No. 2 - SCANDAL??!" under Quick. I have an Ann Glasson who was supposedly born at Gwinear about 1802. In most references to her Gwinear is given as her birthplace but there one instance where Phillack is the stated birthplace. However, a check of IGI gave me:- Ann GLASSON bp. 5th May 1822 at Gwinear d/o Thomas& Ann I am yet to look for the marriage but it seems to me there must be a good chance this Ann will be part of the scenario you are working on. Ian |
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Post by gandolf on May 31, 2008 20:28:33 GMT -5
Hi Ian
Thanks for the Glasson marriages at Gwinear. The Thomas Hampton/Mary Glasson marriage confirms that the other researcher was basing his information on a valid source rather than just estimating.
On the other marriages, I suspect that the Joh Inram will turn out to actually be an Ingram (possibly John). Some Ingrams connect indirectly to my Watts family. The Glasson/Oats marriage could also turn out to be of interest as the Eddy family connects to the Oat(e)s family.
As for the Hampton marriages, if you feel sufficiently motivated, would be happy to have them. At the moment I don't have access to Philimores - will have to see about obtaining a copy as described elsewhere in other threads on the board.
Peter
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Post by gandolf on May 31, 2008 21:13:16 GMT -5
Hi Lannanta
Another researche whose work I have been using as a basis for mine, has so far proved to be mostly quite reliable. In his work he does have the following:
James Glasson (chr. 27 Jun 1762 Crowan) married 5 Feb 1787 at Redruth to Mary Blight.
James is the son of John Glasson and Ann Hampton
As mentioned in another post, I cannot confirm the marriage as it is not on the IGI and I don't currently have access to Philimores or another source for Redruth Marriages.
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Post by gandolf on Jun 1, 2008 18:46:28 GMT -5
Ian
A search for Ann Glasson born around 1802 turns up the following:
Nancy Glasson christened 1 Aug 1802 at Madron, d/o Thomas
This could be your girl.
The IGI treats Nancy/Hannah/Ann as synonyms.
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Post by cornishglassons on Jun 2, 2008 10:28:06 GMT -5
I hope this has been a bit of a help for you and you get you info back soon. Good luck George Thank you so VERY MUCH George, and yes, you were right. I have managed (or rather the experts have) to save my family tree is some nonsensical file and after three days of downloading and deleting and finally on my husband's computer I was able to open!! ;D ;D I have lost quite a bit of info, but not the family tree stuff...and even though I still can't use my computer or get online (something about drivers battling against each other) I am deleted not to have lost all my Glassons!!!! Very best wishes and thanks, Carole |
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Post by georgec on Jun 2, 2008 12:53:42 GMT -5
Hi I am SO glad it turned out ok for you and that you did not lose to much of your Family History. ;D (you may already know this but) If have a Dvd disk writer on you computer you can back up to a DVD+RW disk and then you can rewrite to this disk every time you back up. Also if you have a usb Portable Data storage Key you can back up to this. Regards George  |
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