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Post by cornishmaid on May 27, 2008 5:48:09 GMT -5
Oh dear . A good start to the holiday eh. I had to get someone here to fix my computer because I couldn't bear for them to take it away. How sad am I . I hope you get it fixed really soon. In the meantime we'll all be thinking of you in your and your computer's hour of need
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 27, 2008 8:38:17 GMT -5
Carole - most distressed to hear of your PC problem but I hope said son is going to learn a big lesson from his error. Look forward to having you back on board and we will find a way to solve this problem. Ian
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Post by cornishglassons on May 30, 2008 2:59:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the good wishes, CM and CT, but the computer couldn't be repaired and for now, at least, the worst has happened and I have lost my family tree info (as well as all my photos, address book and an edited version of a book I have written).
I'm writing online from my husband's computer now as my new 'naked' one won't get online or accept any of my old programmes either. I am so hoping there may be a way for a data recovery specialist to retrieve the info in a readable form, and that's what I am looking into today. I can't believe I have been so stupid not to back up the info, although I have an old tree on genesreunited, it's a huge lesson learned.
Onwards and upwards though, going to search for an expert!
Best wishes, Carole
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Post by cornishmaid on May 30, 2008 3:24:52 GMT -5
You must be absolutely devastated! Search for that expert, because the same thing happened to me a while ago and although the computer could not be saved from its doom my pc man managed to retrieve most of my data for me. Although its not much help I still have copies of our correspondence if you would like me to send you that. Don't give up on the computer yet; there may still be hope
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Post by Cornish Terrier on May 30, 2008 8:11:45 GMT -5
Keep the chin up Carole and let us hope your data can be retrieved. From you earlier note it seems a virus has been the cause of this drama so all may not be lost. I know little about viruses but it is possible that your actual data is still intat. Maybe if your hard drive was connected as a 'slave' to another, fully protected, PC it could be possible to access and copy all your required files to another device. I had a problem with my PC a few months ago where even Windows could not be started. I installed another hard drive and installed Windows on it then attached the old drive and was able to retrieve everything. I even managed to restore the old drive completely. Here's hoping. Ian
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Post by white on May 30, 2008 8:51:25 GMT -5
Hi Carole, The same thing happened to my computer several years ago. Nothing would open. A friend who has always been great with them told me that the hard drive is similar to a book. The index being first to open and then you access everything from there. He said that it was the first part that was damaged and it was likely that all the rest was intact. He proved to be correct and managed to retrieve everything for me. Must be worth a try. Good luck , Roy
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Post by gandolf on May 31, 2008 23:54:24 GMT -5
Carole,
Having spent considerable time looking at Hamptons and Glassons in the last month or so, I may be able to shed some light (or perhaps some further confustion? ;D ) on the issue of John Glasson who is recorded in many family trees as the husband of Blanche Kemp and son of John Glasson and Ann Hampton.
I agree with you that the marriage of a John Glasson and Blanche Kemp at Breage in 1776 is not in question. And although I have been working with New South Wales BDM indexs and ahve not personally sighted actual certificates, I am assuming that other researches have and have confirmed that the numerous Glasson siblings that went to Ne Zealand and NSW, Australia were indeed the children of John (jnr) & Mary (nee Glasson) Glasson. The NSW death indexes seem to confirm this.
So if we accept that John (jr) who married his cousin Mary Glasson was the son of John (snr) and Blanche (nee Kemp) Glasson, the question is then what is the actual cousinly relationship between John (jnr) Glasson and his bride Mary Glasson.
Which firstly brings us to the parentage of John (snr) Glasson
I should point out that the Glasson/Hampton connection is a collateral branch of the Hamptons to that which I descend from, and so I have not acquired any actual certificates to support any of the information I have found in various indexes.
Where the question is in my mind is which John Glasson of two different branches of the Glassons was the husband of Blanche Kemp.
In one corner we have: John Glasson married 25 Dec 1756 at Crowan to Anne Hampton John Glasson christened 26 Dec 1757 at Crowan, s/o of John Glazen & Ann
Then we have: Robert Glasson married 6 Aug 1746 at Gwennap to Susannah Mitchell John Glasson christened 19 May 1752 at Crowan, s/o Robert Glazon & Susannah William Glazen christened 2 Aug 1755 at Crowan, s/o of Robert Glazen & Susannah
then we have the following marriages John Glasson married 26 Dec 1770 at Uny Lelant to Christian Uren John Glasson married 1 Dec 1776 at Breage to Blanche Kemp William Glasson married 26 Feb 1781 at Crowan to Mary Williams
Based on what I have seen, the two Johns born in the 1750's mentioned above were 2nd cousins once removed.
William Glasson and Mary Williams seem to be generally accepted as the parents of Mary Glasson who married her cousin John Glasson in 1801 and were the parents of all the children who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand.
Assuming both Johns survived to adulthood (and there is no evidence I have found to suggest otherwise) and that both married we have the following.
Given that we have two John Glassons born about 5 years apart in 1752 and 1757, and two John Glassons marrying about 5 years apart in 1770 and 1776 it seems reasonable to assume that they both married in their early to mid twenties.
Since the John born 1757 could not have married in 1770 (he would only be thirteen at most), he must have married in 1776. So since there is only one other documented marriage, it follows that the John born 1752 must have married in 1770.
So: John Glasson christend 1757 married Blanche Kemp and John Glasson christened 1752 married 1776 to Christian Uren (and incidently were the grandparent of Richard Reed Glasson who married John & Blanche Glasson's granddaughter Susanna Glasson).
From what I can see, the descendants of two different branches of the Glasson family crossed over into the Hamptons.
Two sons of John Glasson (1718 - ) and Ann Perkins married two Hampton sisters: John Glasson (1736 - ?) married 1756 to Anne Hampton Robert Glasson (1741 ?) married 1762 to Jane Hampton
Later grandchildren and great-grandchildren of Robert Glasson, a first cousin of John Glasson (1718 - ?) married back to the children and grandchildren of John Glasson and Anne Hampton.
While I haven't gone looking for it, based on what is seen here it is likely that there is further crossover with the Robert Glasson/Jane Hampton family as well.
So by my reckoning, the John Glasson who married his cousin Mary Glasson were 3rd cousins once removed to each other.
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Post by gandolf on Jun 1, 2008 2:49:45 GMT -5
Carole, I have been doing some more pondering about the ancestry of the John Glasson who married Blanche Kemp and I can certainly see your point. Although I am now even more confused if that is possible. Indeed I am even beginning to come around to the same thinking as you - that John may have been the son of Robert Glasson/Susanna Mitchell rather than than John Glasson/Anne Hampton. As well as the previously mentioned details about John's age at burial there is one other pointer - the fact that John and Blanche had a daughter called Susanna. While not conclusive since there is no clear evidence of a traditional naming pattern (father's father, mother's father, father's mother, mother's mother, etc) in either the Hamptons or the Glassons, the presence of a Susanna suggests a link to Robert Glasson/Susanna Mitchell. Moving the Glasson/Kemp marriage into Robert's line does neaten up that part of the family since it makes the John Glasson/Mary Glasson marriage involve first cousins. HOWEVER, if that is the case then the question is who did the son of John Glasson/Ann Hampton marry? There is another question then if we accept the above revision. I had placed Richard Reed Glasson (who married Susanna Glasson, granddaughter of John Glasson/Blanche Kemp) as the son of Josias Glasson/Bathsheba Reed and grandson of John Glasson/Christian Uren. Where then does the John Glasson who married Bathsheba fit?
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Post by gandolf on Jun 1, 2008 18:36:00 GMT -5
Well, I believe I have now answered my own questions. And in the process I have landed even more firmly on Carole’s side, and now believe like Carole that the John Glasson who married Blanche Kemp 5 Jan 1776 at Breage was indeed the same person as the John Glasson christened 19 May 1752 at Crowan, s/o Robert Glasson and Susannah Mitchell.
As Carole stated I believe we have the following:
Robert Glasson (1724 – 1788) and Susannah Mitchell (? – aft. 1788) had amongst others two sons: John Glasson, christened 19 May 1752 at Crowan, William Glasson, christened 2 Aug 1755 at Crowan
John Glasson (1752 – 1828) married 5 Jan 1776 at Breage to Blanche Kemp (? – 1843) and one of their children was John Glasson (1777 – 1856) who married Mary Glasson (1783 – 1855)
William Glasson (1755 – circa 1814) married 21 May 1781 at Crowan to Mary Williams and one of their children was Mary Glasson (1783 – 1855) who married John Glasson (1777 – 1856)
So Mary Glasson (1783 – 1855) and John Glasson (1777 – 1856) were first cousins.
As to my question about what happened to John Glasson, son of John Glasson and Anne Hampton, below is what I now believe.
John Glasson was christened 26 Dec 1757, s/o John Glasson and Anne Hampton I can’t find his death date. He may have died at Crowan as he does not appear to have died at St. Erth (unless the John Glasson buried at St. Erth on 27 Dec 1829 with a recorded age of 2 should be read as a typo for a recorded age of 72?)
Margaret Richards was christened 15 May 1757, d/o Thomas Richards and Margaret ?? She appears on the 1841 census with a recorded age of 85, living at St. Erth with daughter Margaret. She was buried at St. Erth 29 Mar 1847 with a recorded age of 97 (probable typo for 92)
John Glasson married 12 Nov 1781 at Crowan to Margaret Richards and they had the following children: (Note the traditional naming pattern) John Glasson was born 13 Feb 1783 and christened 23 Mar 1783 at Crowan Anne Glasson was born 23 Jul 1785 and christened 25 Sep 1785 at Crowan (presumably died in infancy) Anne Glasson was born 1 Apr 1878 and christened 29 Jul 1787 at Crowan Thomas Glasson was born 11 Mar 1791 and christened 12 Jun 1791 at Crowan Margaret Glasson was born 20 Feb 1794 and christened 6 Apr 1794 at Crowan
John Glasson (born 1783) married 30 Oct 1803 at St. Erth to Phillipa Trevean Phillipa was christened 9 Jun 1782 at St. Erth, d/o Phillip and Jane Trevean
John and Phillipa had the following children: John Glasson, christened 12 Dec 1804 at St. Erth (presumably died in infancy) John Glasson, christened 22 Jun 1806 at Crowan William Glasson, christened 23 Oct 1808 at Crowan
John Glasson (born 1806) married 23 May 1835 at St. Erth to Ann Penberthy Ann Penberthy was christened 15 May 1814 at St. Erth , d/o of Richard Penberthy and Ann ??
John & Ann had the following children: John Glasson, christened 17 Feb 1836 at St. Erth Richard Penberthy Glasson was born 11 Jan 1838 and christened 3 Jun 1838 at St. Erth James Glasson was born 24 Dec 1839 and christened 14 Apr 1840 at St. Erth Ann Glasson was born 2 Mar 1842 and christened 25 Feb 1846 at St. Erth Elizabeth Jane Glasson was born 4 Oct 1843 and christened 25 Feb 1846 at St. Erth Phillipa Susan Glasson was born 14 Jun 1848 and christened 2 Feb 1850 at St. Erth Simon Penberthy Glasson was born 24 May 1850 and christened 17 Apr 1854 at St. Erth
William Glasson (born 1808) married 9 Jun 1832 at St. Erth to Susannah Richards Susannah Richards was christened 20 May 1810 at St. Erth, d/o of John Richards and Miriam ?? Susannah (nee Richards) Glasson was buried at St. Erth 29 Nov 1850, aged 42
William and Susannah had the following children: William Glasson, christened 23 Feb 1834 at St. Erth (probably born 1833) John Glasson, christened 17 Aug 1834 at St. Erth James Glasson, christened 7 Feb 1836 at St. Erth Elizabeth Glasson, christened 16 Apr 1837 at St. Erth, buried 21 Apr 1837 at St. Erth Susan Glasson was born 14 Oct 1838 and christened 28 Oct 1838 at St. Erth Phillipa Glasson was born 29 Oct 1839 and christened 10 Nov 1839 at St. Erth Elizabeth Glasson was born 25 Feb 1841, christened 14 Mar 1841 at St. Erth, buried 4 Jun 1850 at St. Erth Margaret Glasson was born 24 Jun 1842, christened 10 Jul 1842 at St. Erth, buried 14 Oct 1843 at St. Erth
Daughter Phillipa was living with her maternal grandmother at the 1851 census
Ann Glasson (born 1785) married 7 Jun 1806 at St. Erth to John Carlyon John was born circa 1790.
Anne & John had the following children: Henry Carlyon, christened 8 Jun 1819 at St. Austell Mary Ann Carlyon, christened 3 Feb 1822 at St. Austell Elizabeth Carlyon was born 16 Jun 1825 and christened 26 Dec 1825 at St. Austell
Mary Ann Carlyon married about 1844 to William Hawken (born circa 1820) and had: Thomas Hawken, born circa 1845 at St. Austell Henry Hawken, born circa 1850 at St. Austell (there may be other children – haven’t looked yet)
Not sure what happened to Thomas Glasson (born 1791) as I haven’t yet found anything on him other than his birth.
Margaret Glasson (born 1794) married 1 Jan 1814 at St. Erth to James Pellow (note Margaret recorded as Glapon –probably a misread of Glasson or Gafson) James Pellow was christened 2 Aug 1791 at St. Erth and buried 13 Oct 1841 at St. Erth
Margaret and James Pellow had the following children: Frances Pellow, christened 5 Feb 1815 at St. Erth (indexed on St. Erth OPC under surname of Potter, on 1841 census living with parents under married surname of Clements) Lavinia Pellow, christened 31 Mar 1820 at St. Erth James Pellow, christened 14 Dec 1823 at St. Erth (presumably died in infancy) James Pellow, christened 25 Dec 1825 at St. Erth Benjamin Pellow, born circa 1826 (no record of christening, but on 1841 census) John Galssons Pellow, christened 20 Jul 1828 at St. Erth Leonard Pellow, christened 10 Feb 1832 at St. Erth Absalom Pellow, christened 26 Jan 1834 at St. Erth (indexed as Aposlyn? ) William Pellow, christened 31 Jan 1836 at St. Erth (indexed on St. Erth OPC under surname of Peters, but on 1841 census) Margaret Pellow, christened 4 Nov 1836 at St. Erth James Pellow, christened 25 Dec 1825 at St. Erth
All of this now leaves a couple of questions which I will deal with in separate posts to keep things neater.
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Post by gandolf on Jun 1, 2008 18:38:04 GMT -5
Given the scenario regarding the origins of the two John Glassons in my previous post, my first question is what was the connection of Richard Reed Glasson who married Susanna Glasson 12 May 1835 at Breage?
Susanna Glasson was christened 1 Jan 1806 at Breage, d/o Joseph Glasson and Mary Carter. Joseph Glasson was christened 24 Jan 1779 at Breage, s/o John Glasson and Blanche Kemp
In other words, Joseph Glasson was the brother of the John Glasson who married his first cousin Mary Glasson.
Richard Reed Glasson’s family were:
Joseph Glasson Snr (born circa 1779, buried 28 Mar 1844 Sithney) who appears to have married 29 Dec 1800 at Sithney to Bathsheba Reed ( born circa 1780, buried 20 Oct 1858 Sithney) (the marriage in IGI is a patron entry not church record, so maybe another member can confirm the marriage?)
Joseph and Bathsheba had the following children: Richard Reed Glasson, christened 26 Dec 1802 Sithney Susanna Glasson, christened 1 Apr 1804 Sithney Christian Glasson, christened 25 May 1806 Sithney, buried 15 May 1829 Sithney Elizabeth Glasson, christened 11 Apr 1808 Sithney Joseph Glasson, christened 6 Aug 1810 Sithney, buried 22 Oct 1834 Sithney Mary Ann Glasson, christened 11 Jan 1813 Sithney Thomas Glasson, christened 19 Mar 1815 Sithney James Glasson, christened 27 Dec 1816 Sithney John Glasson, christened 20 Jun 1819 Sithney
The daughter Christian suggests that Joseph Snr should be the son of John Glasson who married Christian Uren 26 Dec 1770 at Uny Lelant and had the following children: Ann Glasson, christened 26 Sep 1773 Uny Lelant John Glasson, christened 30 Mar 1777 Uny Lelant Susannah Glasson, christened 11 Jun 1779 Uny Lelant Jasper Glasson, christened 21 Oct 1781 Uny Lelant William Glasson, christened 8 May 1784 Uny Lelant Josias Glasson, christened 15 Oct 1784 Uny Lelant
The use of the name Susannah in both families suggests that they should be connected in some way to Robert Glasson who married Susanna Mitchell.
So the questions are: Is the Joseph Glasson who married Bathseba the same person as either Joseph Glasson or Josiah Glasson, sons of John and Christian Glasson?
How (if at all) does the John Glasson who married Christina Uren connect to the family of Robert Glasson who married Susanna Mitchell?
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Post by gandolf on Jun 1, 2008 18:38:48 GMT -5
Given the scenario regarding the origins of the two John Glassons in my previous post, my second question relates to the Mary Glasson who married Thomas Hampton 28 Sep 1804 at Gwinear. I had originally placed Mary Glasson as the daughter of Robert Glasson and Eleanor Thomas, whose daughter Mary was christened 29 Oct 1775 at Crowan. However, given that the Robert Glasson’s are a different branch of the Glassons to the branch of Glassons that married into the Hamptons I suspect that this is now incorrect.
Thomas Hampton was christened 27 Apr 1777, s/o Thomas Hampton (snr) and Jennifer Michell (I suspect that Michell may be a variation of Mitchell and therefore may make Jennifer a relative of Susanna Mitchell who married Robert Glasson as described in my previous posts)
Thomas Hampton (snr) was the brother of Anne Hampton and Jane Hampton, who respectively married brothers John Glasson and Robert Glasson, sons of John Glasson (first cousin to Robert, father of the Robert who married Eleanor Thomas) and Ann Perkins.
Jane Hampton and Robert Glasson married 11 Sep 1762 at Gwinear and had a number of children christened at Gwinear and later at Crowan including Edward Glasson christened 25 Sep 1763 at Gwinear.
The IGI shows a patron entry (rather than a church record) which has Edward Glasson (1763 - ?) marrying on 10 Sep 1780 at Gwinear to Rebecca Harvey. I suspect the marriage is correct since Edward and Rebecca have about seven children at Gwinear over the next 15 years. One of these is Mary Glasson, christened 12 May 1785 at Gwinear who I suspect may be the Mary who married Thomas Hampton. If correct, they would have been first cousins.
My problem is that for this to work Edward would have been about 17 when he married and in that era that seems a little young.
Interested to hear what other think.
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Post by cornishglassons on Jun 2, 2008 10:21:48 GMT -5
Carole, I have been doing some more pondering about the ancestry of the John Glasson who married Blanche Kemp and I can certainly see your point. Although I am now even more confused if that is possible. Indeed I am even beginning to come around to the same thinking as you - that John may have been the son of Robert Glasson/Susanna Mitchell rather than than John Glasson/Anne Hampton. Thanks so much for all your input, Gandolf and the lingering unanswered question as to whether John Glasson snr was the son of Robert Glasson and Susannah Mitchell or John Glasson and Ann Hampton? Or to put another way, were John Glasson snr and William Glasson snr of Crowan brothers? And hence were John Glasson jun and Mary Glasson jun first cousins, or as you worked out in your first post 3rd cousins once removed. It is all wonderfully confusing and there are indications for both theories. So many crossovers - with other Glassons and Hamptons and in my line Pools. I’ve read and digested all your replies and thank you for the Hampton info which is new to me. I am so sorry I haven’t been able to reply sooner due to my computer problems, but glad to see that your ponderings led you to my ‘John Glasson bp 1752 IS the son of Robert & Susannah club’ – think there are only two members though!!! The information I have on the children of Robert Glasson and Susannah Mitchell are: 1. Dorothy bp 1747 who married 1. Thomas Jago of Helston 28 Feb 1767 and 2. John Bouchier of Manacann 29 Jun 1785 2. Mary bp 1748 who married Theophilus George of Mullion 31 Jan 1768 3. Robert Glasson bp 1749 who married Eleanor Thomas 24 Nov 1770 4. Ann Glasson bp 1750 who married Philip Richards 2 Jan 1787 5. John Glasson bp 1752 who married Blanche Kemp of Breage 1 Jan 17706. Richard Glasson bp 1754 who married Hannah Vivian of Camborne 6 Dec 1783 7. William Glasson bp 1755 who married Mary Williams of Crowan 26 Feb 17818. Elizabeth Glasson bp 1757 who married Reginald Thomas of Madron 7 Feb 1778 Robert’s will of 1788 does mention all his son’s although his daughters are not mentioned by name. It was my first assumption that this John was Robert & Susannah’s son and William’s brother because of mentions in the later letters of John’s grandson John Glasson from Australia. No real evidence, of course, but Uncle William of Falmouth (son of William bp 1755 & Mary Williams) played a big part in helping his nephew to emigrate when it seemed his father had doubts and the indications were that his own parents were first cousins. He also talked affectionately of Grandmother Blanche and the relations at Crowan. However, since seeing John’s gravestone for myself showing he was born in 1752, I have felt certain in my own mind I was correct (just about the only thing I was certain of!) John Glasson snr’s gravestone read: ”John Glasson who departed this life 16 May 1828 age 76 and his wife Blanch on 26 Jan 1848 age 86” I have Blanches death certificate btw confirming her dates and stating she was the wife of the late John Glasson, yeoman, of Breage. From Phillimore Marriages – John Glasson and Blanch Kemp were married by licence in Crowan on 1 January 1776 where John was then listed as a husbandman from Crowan. Witnesses were Joseph Kemp and Thomas Johns. Had there been a Glasson father as a witness it might have indicated one way or another a lot sooner! The information I have on the children of John Glasson and Blanche Kemp: 1. John bp 1777 married Mary Glasson of Crowan 30 Jun 1801 * 2. Joseph bp 1779 married Mary Carter of Porthleven 26 Oct 1802 3. Richard bp 1783 – died as infant 4. Ann bp 1785 married Thomas Trounce of Breage 7 Dec 1810 5. Grace b 1787 – died as infant 6. Susannah b 1789 - died as infant* I have the marriage of John Glasson & Mary Glasson 30 June 1801 at Crowan – witnesses were William Glasson (snr) and John Glasson (snr) their fathers who we now believe are brothers(but may not have been LOL) . Like you the name Susannah stood out and was another indication that Susannah Mitchell was likely to be her grandmother. As you say there is no traditional naming pattern, although it was noteworthy that there was no son called Robert! It was also interesting that all three surviving children, John, Joseph and Ann all had daughter’s they named Susannah. So the Susannah name did continue in every line of the next generation. Susannah Glasson bp 1824 d/o John & Mary Susannah Glasson bp 1805 d/o Joseph & Mary Susannah Trounce bp 1816 d/o Ann & Thomas Trounce ** **I had not known that this Susannah existed until I saw her grave in the Trounce Plot in the ‘new’ churchyard at Breage (rather an impressive one) with her siblings. Interestingly her brother Thomas s/o Ann & Thomas died in British Columbia, Canada but had returned to be buried in Breage. A little aside on the Glasson burials in the graveyard of St Brecca Church, Breage As already stated John and Blanche are buried together. On one side of them is the grave of son John Glasson and Mary: • Scared to the memory of John Glasson of Tremearne who died 30 April 1856 age 79. Also of Mary who departed 21 July 1855 age 72. Blessed are the dead who trust in the Lord. On the other side is the grave of daughter Ann: • Thomas Trounce who died at Breage on 22 January 1852 age 74. Also of Ann, his wife, who died at Breage 7 December 1845 aged 60. Also in the Glasson area are Robert Glasson bp 1819 s/o John and Mary: • Scared to the memory of Robert Glasson who departed this life 4 August 1842 age 22 years There is also a Mary Glasson who died 30/9/1853 whose age had worn away and I am unable to trace. Onto the children of William Glasson (1755 – 1814) and Mary Williams (1758-1825) who married 26 Feb 1781 in Crowan: 1. William Glasson b 6 Oct 1781 married Elizabeth Mogg on 14 Jun 1808 * 2. Mary Glasson b 28 Feb 1783 married John Glasson on 30 Jun 1801 3. Eleanor Glasson b 8 Nov 1784 married Francis Pool on 10 Mar 1806 4. Henry Glasson bp 1786 and married Sarah/Sally Boase Glasson on 20 Apr 1808 5. Robert Glasson b 11 Apr 1789 and married Margaret Gibbons Rolls c. 1820 6. Hannah Glasson bp 1798 and married Emanuel Pool (brother of Francis Pool above) on 19 Nov 1818Bit of a shame there are no Susannah's here, but there IS a Robert?! I have the will of William dated 1814 and his wife Mary’s dated 1825. The St Aubyn’s Arms Inn is passed from William to Mary and then to daughter Eleanor. In both wills it mentions daughter Mary IS the wife of John Glasson of Breage. *This William Glasson moved to Budock c 1812/1814 and is the Uncle William of Falmouth referred to in his nephew John Glasson’s letters home from Australia. I have got some specific questions and ideas relating to some of your thoughts so will do so separately. Best wishes and thanks SO much again. Carole
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Post by cornishglassons on Jun 2, 2008 10:30:25 GMT -5
Hi Carole, The same thing happened to my computer several years ago. Nothing would open. A friend who has always been great with them told me that the hard drive is similar to a book. The index being first to open and then you access everything from there. He said that it was the first part that was damaged and it was likely that all the rest was intact. He proved to be correct and managed to retrieve everything for me. Must be worth a try. Good luck , Roy You're totally correct, Roy - thank you. The family tree file was intact just I wasn't able to get to it. But after some fiddling I am now able to open it on my husband's computer, so all my lovely Glassons are safe!!! Next step is to get online from min again. Thanks so much EVERYONE for your support and good wishes - they worked!!!! Best wishes, Carole
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Post by cornishglassons on Jun 2, 2008 15:00:58 GMT -5
Given the scenario regarding the origins of the two John Glassons in my previous post, my first question is what was the connection of Richard Reed Glasson who married Susanna Glasson 12 May 1835 at Breage? Susanna Glasson was christened 1 Jan 1806 at Breage, d/o Joseph Glasson and Mary Carter. Joseph Glasson was christened 24 Jan 1779 at Breage, s/o John Glasson and Blanche Kemp In other words, Joseph Glasson was the brother of the John Glasson who married his first cousin Mary Glasson. So the questions are: Is the Joseph Glasson who married Bathseba the same person as either Joseph Glasson or Josiah Glasson, sons of John and Christian Glasson? How (if at all) does the John Glasson who married Christina Uren connect to the family of Robert Glasson who married Susanna Mitchell? Hi Gandolf! A few musings about Joseph Glasson if I may. I have Joseph Glasson s/o John Glasson and Blanche Kemp and younger brother of John Glasson jun of Tremearne. I too have Joseph married to Mary Carter, daughter of the infamous John Carter, King of Prussia smuggler. Joseph became the landlord of the Ships Inn, Porthleven. It's an interesting story as I came across a newspaper article that while running the Inn, Joseph was taken by press gang on board the King's ships in 1805 and was never heard of again. He was declared dead in 1810 and his will was granted to his widow Mary. Mary ran the Inn for many years afterwards. When John Glasson sold one of his farmhouses to finance his son's Australian enterprises the auction was held at the Inn. I visited this area in the spring and enjoyed a drink at the Ships Inn. It stands overlooking the harbour and is filled (and advertised) as having many smuggling connections. There are more buildings on the harbour front now but at the beginning of the 19th century it stood overlooking the farmland belonging to John Glasson sen and then jun and their farmhouse called Tremearne. The boundary between the villages of Breage and Portleven is inbetween the Inn and Tremearne Farm, with the only other nearby building being a farm belonging to the Treweeke family (who married into the Glassons). The bay most connected with The King of Prussia is a little way along the coast. Amongst my reasons for believing Joseph to be the son of John and Blanche is that his eldest son was called Joseph Kemp Glasson. And, as you have pointed out, there was also a daughter Susannah. I haven't yet found any other children though I believe grandchildren and possibly great grandchildren remained in the area. However, despite all this again I find others disagree with me, and have Joseph s/o John and Blanche as the Josias you mentioned who married Bathsheba Reed. I hope this isn't true as I've become rather fond of Joseph of Portleven! Certainly we barely get the Johns sorted and then we get the Josephs confusing us futher. Then as we have got Susannah d/o Joseph marrying Richard Reed Glasson s/o Joseph/Josiah I'm a bit confused as to the cousinly (made up word but it will do!!) relationship between the married couple. On another matter you mentioned a Thomas Glasson bp 1793 and not being able to trace him. Is it possible he moved to Budock? When reseraching William Glasson and Elizabeth Mogg in the Budock area, and was helped by researchers from the National Martime Museum and also a wonderfully informative churchwarden from Budock Church. They both knew about the Glasson family but there was also a stray Thomas Glasson a little younger than William (who was born 1781) who kept being mentioned and never seemed to marry. I haven't yet researched it but know he was in the history books I bought in the church. Could this be your missing Thomas? Anyway, lots to do but thanks once again for all your thoughts and info that I have printed out to take to bed!!! Best wishes, Carole
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2008 4:57:43 GMT -5
Hi there
My apologies for butting in, espercially when I said that I was not that confident of my sources and certainly not enough to put anyone off their trail.
However, I too have Joseph as the son of John Glasson and Blanch Kemp. While I have Joseph married to Mary Carter in 1802 at Breage, I have recorded Mary as the daughter of Francis Carter and Mary Stephens - I did not know about the pirate/smuggler??
It is interesting to note that we all seem to have the children of Joseph and Mary as Susanna and Joseph Kemp Glasson. But note in the following will that Susanna is not mentioned, but a daughter Mary is:
As I have said before, this family has no direct relation to my lot of Glassons (in my humble opinion), however the alleged daughter Susanna (bap 1/1/1806 in Breage) married Richard Reed Glasson, son of Joseph Glasson and Bathsheba Reed, who was my 3rd cousin. So, if my records are correct, this is one of a number of places where the Madron and Camborne Glassons mix together.
Richard Reed Glasson was, I believe, the 2nd great grandson of Thomas Glasson and Susanna Trounsen of Madron.
Lannanta
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