William Glasson of St Hilary

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I might try to take a look at William and Susanna tonight also.

They kept crossing my path as I was looking for more information on William and Belinda so they were obviously craving attention!

I'll leave you to ponder the information I sent via email and maybe make some sense of it here.

CT

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CT

I don't want to muddy the waters with William and Susanna (Susan Richards) but I have her attached to the wrong William at the moment, with a note that the connection is wrong. Funnily enough the William I have her attached to is the son of James Glasson and Mary Bright!!

But some time ago I worked out that she is married to the son of John Glasson and Phillippa Trevean although I do not have those reasearch notes at hand.

Lannanta

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If I remember correctly Philippa does feature among the children of William and Susanna.

More for me to look at tonight.

But I need to have another look at the situation involving the two (or one ) Elizabeth Glasson appearing in the Census as niece to one family and 'cousin' to another.

The niece of John and Grace Woolcock claimed St Erth as a birthplace so that might alter my thinking on the 'cousin' of Richard Glasson whose birthplace is recorded as Marazion.

I am sure there will be a path through the maze.

CT

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Before going too far I have decided to have a bit of a look at the family of Belinda Pearce to see if I can pick up any clues regarding William Glasson.

First thing is that she and her siblings appear to have been left fatherless at a very young age.

It appears Tobias Pearce must be the one buried at Crowan 15th October 1819 age 20 which means that his son Tobias was a posthumous child.

The only likely baptism I can find is at Crowan where Tobias Pearce was baptised 13th April 1789. (born 1st February 1789)

His parents were John and Elizabeth Pearce and it is at this point that I need mention something worth noting.

The CFHS Marriage Index for Crowan shows that John PEARSE married Elizabeth BECKERLEGG 9th October 1780

I checked Phillimore to see if there might be any further information recorded but ................

This entry DOES NOT appear in Phillimore!!

Not only that but it DOES NOT appear in IGI either!

Goes to show the value of having access to multiple sources.

What I am looking for here are any clues to identify sources for the names of the children of Tobias which in turn might help in the accurate identification of William Glasson.

And in case you don't have it - Tobias Pearce married Elizabeth Bartle 30th March 1815 at Crowan.

Onwards with the investigation!

CT

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Lannanta - the marriage record at St Erth shows that William Glasson (husband of Susanna Richards) was son of John Glasson so I am guessing you did not have access to these records at the time.

And according to the Census he was born around 1808 at Crowan.

That is about where I am at right now so I had best get on with it!

CT

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Lannanta - I think I am now more convinced than ever that the 'cousin' Elizabeth with Richard Glasson in 1851 was the daughter of William and Belinda.

I just looked at the marriage record for William and Belinda and also checked back to your original note for this subject.

The one thing I had missed was the fact that William Glasson was resident at Marazion at the time.

It follows then that there is every chance that his daughter Elizabeth was born at Marazion maybe just prior to the family's move to St Erth where she was baptised.

Also worth noting is that Elizabeth was not at home with Belinda in 1851.

It may be that the only way we might know for sure exactly who William Glasson was would be to locate the burial record or get hold of the Death Certificate.

Looking over things again and again to try and find clues but most leave me uncertain.

I do think it very likely though that William is the one recorded in FreeBMD in the September Qtr of 1842.

If you look again at the 1851 Census there are a couple of things of interest.

Belinda has four children with her - notably missing is Elizabeth.

Of the four living at home the two youngest - Mary age 2 and William age 4 months - are recorded as 'natural children' whilst George and Philippa are merely son and daughter.

The baptism record for Philippa is then worth looking at.

It records that Philippa was born 29th December 1842 but the most interesting thing is that she was baptised 5th November 1843 as daughter of Belinda with her father's name not recorded.

I will check all my burial records for the Penzance R.D. but at this point I would think that William died around July-September 1842.

CT

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I have checked all my available burial records for the Penzance R.D. with no sign of a burial for a William Glasson in 1842.

The Parishes I cannot check are St Ives, Towednack, Ludgvan, Lelant, St Hilary and Perranuthnoe.

Of the William Glassons in any of these areas in 1841 it appears all were still alive in 1851 although I cannot be absolutely certain.

So whilst it looks probable that this William is the one registered in September 1842 there must still be some doubt.

CT

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There certainly seems to be a fascination with the name George in this family.

Philippa d/o William and Belinda Glasson married Thomas Pearce at St Erth 4th November 1865.

In the 1871 Census they have one child - George Glasson Pearce age 5 born St Erth.

Philippa's brother George was buried at St Erth 5th September 1865 age 24.

But if William's father was James ................

Belinda was still living at Kirton Wood in 1871 with her youngest child Mary M Glasson.

The handwriting is 'ordinary' so to find her in Ancestry's Census you need to look for RELIFEAG GLASSON!

Easier to look for daughter Mary who was then age 13.

In 1881 BLINDA Glasson was living with daughter Philippa and her husband Thomas Pearce at Lower North Country, Redruth.

Bellinda Glasson died March Qtr 1883 Redruth R.D. age 66 (Note the double 'L' in the name).

That is about all I can do for tonight but unfortunately I have not yet been able to positively identify William Glasson.

CT

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There is another possibility that has not yet been considered.

Could William have been another child of James Glasson and Elizabeth Lemin??

We only know of three children of whom two were born in Devon.

In 1841 William stated he was born 'in County' but the possibility must be considered and would account for his age of 25 in the 1841 Census.

[Sarch]

Hi CT

I checked burials in St Ives (on LDS Film No 1595570) 1841 through to March 1843 no Glassons I am afraid.

I did find a William Trewhella 1842 5 years old and some Quicks tho and will email them to you if you want them although I only did 2 ½ years

Regards

Sarch

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Hi Sarch - well that is one Parish eliminated then.

And yes - I would appreciate those other burials you have found.

I should probably have William Trewhella but certainly the Quicks will be handy.

CT

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CT

I have ordered the certificate for William in 1842 as I need to eliminate that particular William pretty quickly.

Lannanta

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Okay mate - I was hoping to be able to avoid the purchase but unfortunately ran out of resources.

While we are on the subject of William Glasson - who were the parents of the William who married Selina Andrews?

All I can find so far is that his father was William (deceased by the time of the 1870 marriage) and that his mother was Elizabeth who was born at Mawgan about 1807.

Although if I have found the right couple in earlier records it would seem she could not make up her mind where she was born!

CT

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CT

While we are on the subject of William Glasson - who were the parents of the William who married Selina Andrews?

I do believe that this William was a Ludgvan man and at the time of the marriage to Selina both fathers were deceased. I also think that he may have had an earlier sibling also named William. So I believe that he was the son of William Glasson born 13 June 1818 and married to Elizabeth RUBERRY on 4 Decemeber 1839 at Ludgvan.

Lannanta

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Thanks Lannanta - I was thinking along those lines particularly as he had a daughter Harriet Ruberry Glasson.

But there was something I saw in the Census that made me wonder.

Will try and take another look at it later tonight.

I have heard back from Al Kline who has unfortunately not been able to get any further than us with William and Belinda.

I have looked at the Godolphin baptism for Mary Matilda Glasson a number of times now and everything I can find suggests that this must be the daughter of Belinda who was recorded as Mary M Glasson, daughter, age 3 in the 1861 Census.

The word 'Galeudy' has been transcribed from apparently what appears in the 'father's name' column but I am far from convinced this is an actual name.

The response from the OPC indicates that the film of this entry is not currently available so a trip to the CRO will be required thus delaying any further information.

With nothing more to be done there for now we will have to await the arrival of the death certificate to see if it is actually the husband of Belinda which will hopefully allow us to move forward (backward? on this problem.

I have advised Al Kline, St Hilary OPC, that I will let him know the details once that certificate arrives.

CT