William Glasson - St Aubyns Arms Aug 6, 2010 7:55:18 GMT -5
Post by cornishglassons on Aug 6, 2010 7:55:18 GMT -5
Aug 5, 2010 16:22:41 GMT -5 @lannanta said:Hello Glasson researchers and in particular Carole
You may have been watching the thread on Robert and Ann Glasson of Crowan:
As a result I can offer some more information on the children of Robert and Ann GLASSON/IVEY/SPUR.
and noted that in the census we had a family predominantly calling themselves Glassons, when in fact that were Spurs.
The marriage parish entry kindly supplied by CT shows that Robert was actually Robert Glasson Spur and that his father was Robert Glasson, an innkeeper. Robert Glasson Spur was illegitimate.
My records only show one innkeeper in that era and that is Robert Glasson, baptised in 1789 at Crowan, and the son of William Glasson and Mary Williams and the Robert mentioned in this thread (1789) - became the husband of Margaret Rolls - and when their first two children were baptised in Falmouth Robert was said to be an innkeeper.
So to start the debate I am suggesting that Robert, 1789, is the father of Robert Glasson Spur.
As a matter of interest I have in my possession copies of the letters that were used to produce the document "The Glasson Saga" which essentially is the correspondence between a relation of the above Robert and that relation's son John in Australia. Some time ago I have made a reference to this Robert in my database and the note I wrote said that it had been suggested in the letters that he was an alcoholic.
I would be interested in any discussion.
Yes, I had read your recent discussions re the Glasson/Spurs, although I will read much more thoroughly now. I need to do that before I can make a sensible contribution.
I am very interested in the letters suggesting Robert was an alcoholic. I too have letters - from John of Bookanan to his father back in Breage, but I don't recall that. Can I ask who your letters are from and to?
I have a few notes I had written myself on Robert Glasson (11/04/1789 - 22/12/1833) who married Margaret Rolls from Dorchester, and agree Robert was an innkeeper - as was many of his family. Also Robert's sisters Eleanor and Hannah married brothers Francis and Emanuel Pool whose family were also innkeepers.
Other random information I have on Robert is that he was listed in the 1832 Voter's List for Crowan. Although he was then living in Truro, he qualified to vote because he owned the lease of the St Aubyns Arms, Praze. In his father's will of 1814, Robert had been left "the brewhouse and premises at Praze," although his mother Mary had been left "all contents [of St Aubyn's Arms] and liquor." In his mother Mary's own will dated 1825 she left an income from the St Aubyn's Arms to most of her children - which confuses me somewhat - although perhaps the St Aubyn's Arms inn itself was different to the brewhouse and dwelling house (?). However Mary's will also states "I nominate Robert Glasson of Truro and James Pool of Crowan to keep the interest in the inn." My husband wonders if Mary owned the property but son Robert leased it from her.
I believe this James Pool (1799 - 1862) was the brother of Francis and Emanuel Pool and therefore also from an innkeeping family. Although I later have James listed as owning an engineering company J &F Pool. I also have James Pool listed as marrying Mary Glasson (1800 - 1844).
Going off topic a little, I am not sure exactly which Glasson branch this Mary belongs, but I did find a reference to her death in the West Briton dated 31 May 1844:
"Sudden death on Thursday inst. as Mary Pool wife of Mr James Pool was going on horseback to visit friends in the Wendron parish, she had not reached more than a mile, when she obliged to ask a person she met on the road to assist her off her horse, which being done, she expired immediately, having it supposed ruptured a blood vessel. She was in her 44th year and left a husband and six children."
Anyway, back to Robert:
In the 1841 Census I found who I thought to be his widow Margaret listed as an innkeeper at Boscawan Street, Truro. However as she is listed as Margaret Simpson (although transcribed as Timpson). After Robert's death in 1833, according to Pallott's, Margaret married Joseph Simpson in 1835 in Truro. Joseph died in 1840 so before the census - wonder if he too was an innkeeper? The children from Margaret's marriage to Robert - Eliza, Robert (is this Robert Spur???), Margaret and Mary - live with her. In the 1851 Census however she is a glass and china dealer in the same street, now with eldest son William Rolls Glasson living with them.
So without checking I am unsure if this Robert, born in 1826 is Robert Spur, or if father Robert had two sons, one legitimate and one illitimate??? I should be leaving now, so will check later. The Robert above later became the glass and china dealer and after Margaret's death was head of the household though still living with his siblings. I don't have a marriage listed for this Robert.
I believe that Robert senior and Margaret's daughter Eliza also married into the Pool family - George Pool, whose father Thomas was a brother of Francis and Emanuel. Thomas was also an innkeeper of, again I believe but am not certain, of the Lamb and Flag in St Erth. George ran the Star Inn in Penzance, later the Victoria Inn and later still a wine merchant. While I am on the subject it was George's elder brother William Hawes Pool owned a wine and spirits company W. Hawes Pool & Sons.
I have Robert Glasson and wife Margaret Rolls' eldest son William Rolls Glasson (1821 - 1903) as having a finger in a lot of pies also. At one point William was a house painter, a glazier and later ran the china and glass business. I also found him owning shares in the Great Western Railway, and there are many references in the Cornwall Archives due to buying and selling property, leases and purchasing insurance policies.
Anyway, sorry I have rambled...though perhaps the above shows that Robert had amble opportunity to become an alcoholic!!!!
Over the weekend I will have a look at the Robert Spur Glassons more thoroughly and perhaps can be able to answer my own questions.