Udye of Morvah

[trencrom]

Again this is from memory.....

A Chestian Udye, widow, of Morvah made a will dated 1619 leaving bequests to her daughter and also to Ralph Osborne, a local of Morvah parish.
"Udye' I am taking to be "Eddy" which was a family well-known in neighbouring Zennor.
Does anyone know whetre Chestian fits into the wider Udy/Eddy family?

[trencrom]

An abstract of this will can be found in part 2 of Kathie's probates.

[Cornish Terrier]

I have the details of that Will but, unfortunately, seem to have progressed not much further than yourself.

Udye/Eddy - I agree with you on the synonym and also believe it is the same family.

My impression was that Ralph Osborne was her son-in-law.

Will need to discuss this further as it seems Cheston named/mentioned four grandchildren.

I had worked out that one of these was Margaret OSBORN who married Richard TREMBATH at Morvah in 1619.

Hmmm -

[trencrom]

That was my impression too. Ralph's wife was named Elizabeth and he did have a daughter Margaret who as you say married Trembath.
Ralph left a PCC will circa 1655 which I have a copy of , but not to hand as I am holidaying at present. .

[Cornish Terrier]

How about you enjoy your holiday and we discuss this one on your return.

Enjoy.

[Zenobia]

I found the following deed today pertaining to a Ralph Osborne of Morvah:

Henderson, Vol. VII, p. 131:

#364, 1632. Ezech: Groose Esq. leases to Ralph Osburne of Morva yeo. p L28 the halfendeale of Resevan & Resevan Mills in Sancreed. Lives: Mary wife of John Osburne of Morva, English, dau of sd. Ralph & Ralph son of John Osburne. Suit to Treganebris.

Hope this might be helpful!

[Cornish Terrier]

Thanks Cousin - I am sure that will be most helpful but I will need some time to digest and check the information before I can do much with it.

It seems very likely we might be dealing with the 'kiin' of another Zennor Will so it will need some careful thought.

Just now I would have to say that I am beyond the point of careful thought unfortunately so will have to look into this later rather than sooner.

But i will try to do so in the next couple of dys.

[trencrom]

admin said:

I found the following deed today pertaining to a Ralph Osborne of Morvah:

Henderson, Vol. VII, p. 131:

#364, 1632. Ezech: Groose Esq. leases to Ralph Osburne of Morva yeo. p L28 the halfendeale of Resevan & Resevan Mills in Sancreed. Lives: Mary wife of John Osburne of Morva, English, dau of sd. Ralph & Ralph son of John Osburne. Suit to Treganebris.

Hope this might be helpful!

My understanding is that this is the same Ralph.
John I have as his son, and as the John who died at Morvah in 1666 (admon papers dated that year) leaving a widow Mary.

Be interesting to know whether that means Ralph junior (son of John) inherited the Sancreed lease, as I cannot recall finding much if anything on him in Morvah in later decades.

[Cornish Terrier]

Seems I have much more work to do on this family.

From available information that I have, to date, worked on I had determined five sons of unknown Osbon parents at Morvah.

John (died before 1711) m. Mary MICHELL (Will proved 1716)
(Robert MICHELL of Zennor names Mary Osborn, widow, whom I have deduced to have been his sister.)

Matthew m. Mary USTICKE at Zennor in 1664 and left a Will in 1709.

Bernard m. Jane VEALE at Morvah in 1674

Thomas m. Constance COWLING at Morvah in 1667 and was buried at Morvah in 1715.

Benjamin m. (??) before 1674 and was buried at Morvah in 1717.

Will try and look more into this asap.

Meanwhile - hope the above will be of help.

[trencrom]

As these folk are two generations after Ralph I will create a separate thread for discussion of them and respond there.

[Cornish Terrier]

Thanks Trencrom - I was getting myself a little confused with the mention of another John Osborne with a wife named Mary.

Will catch up on the new thread.

[Cornish Terrier]

Before getting 'stuck into' the new Thread I need to ask a couple of things here.

When you have the chance I would like to have the details of the 1655 Will of Ralph Osborne, if I may.

Also - the details, if you have them, of the 1666 Admon. of John Osborne of Morvah.
All I knew about that event was from Kathie's Index of Morvah Wills which did not include a Christian name. (She has not transcribed this one as yet so obviously worked from the original index.)

It would appear that John 'may' have been buried somewhere other than Morvah as I can find no record of him in my records of the Morvah Burial Register. (Transcribed by Bill Curnow).

Now to the new discussion point.

[trencrom]

no problem --I have covered this on the new thread
i have a copy of the 1666 doc and it describes John as being of Morvah.
If there is no burial for him at Morvah, could he have been buried at Sancreed as I understand that Ralph came from there?

[Cornish Terrier]

Just had a look at the OPC Transcript for Sancreed and there appears to be no Osborne buried in that Parish between 1650 and 1699 so we need to look elsewhere.

Could have been at Zennor and the event is one of those missing entries from the BTs/PRs I suppose.

Will try to think about this one later but will now move to the new thread for this subject.