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Post by genie on Jun 23, 2007 16:51:38 GMT -5
I have looked at the 1901 census online for Mary Williams born Marazion but living in Camborne.
Could someone tell me if it is a Mary A or Mary H Williams please. Also who her husband is.
Thinking about buying the marriage certificate if I can find the date as I am hoping that witnessess may have been her family.
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Post by Zenobia on Jun 23, 2007 18:30:29 GMT -5
It says William J. Williams and Mary A. Williams. He is a plasterer, b. Camborne.
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Post by genie on Jun 24, 2007 8:11:27 GMT -5
Thanks for that.
I am still a having problems finding the marriage.
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Post by cornishmaid on Jun 24, 2007 11:23:59 GMT -5
Can you post some more details about the family, and will see if we can help, ie: Approx year of birth of William and Mary, and what year they had their first child. Alternatively, can you post some details from the 1901 so I know I've found the right family please.
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Post by genie on Jun 24, 2007 12:35:24 GMT -5
In the 1901 census Mary A Williams 34 ,Cornwall Marazion Cornwall Camborne.She was born about 1867 at Marazion. I don't know anything about William J Williams 34 Cornwall Camborne Cornwall Camborne Plasterer . There weren't any children.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 24, 2007 14:11:01 GMT -5
The above information does not gel with earlier postings - at this stage. I have just had a look at the entry in the 1901 Census where it is stated that Mary was born at Marazion. I have also checked the Marazion Baptisms but could not find her. Mind you - born Marazion does not necessarily mean baptised there!
The point I do need to query is your note (Private Message) which shows that MARY H BEAR was, according to the 1871 Census, born in Ludgvan.
Now, I have just checked Marazion Baptisms and could not find her and also could not find brother George. However, I will say that George, in particular, may have been born in about 1869/70 and not baptised until after the 1871 Census.
My main problem is that Mary is recorded as having been born in Ludgvan but the family was residing at Marazion in 1871 with George named as having been born there.
If we move to the 1901 Cenus we see the person (Mary) being married to a Williams and living at Camborne - but birthplace named as Marazion.
In the 1871 Census she is clearly Mary H. Bear, age 4, bn. Ludgvan
I cannot, so far, find her in 1881 or 1891.
My suspicion is that her full name may have been MARY HANNAH BEAR (hence Mary H.).
My further suspicion is that the 1901 Census entry you have been working on MAY not have anything to do with this family.
I have checked the 1881 and 1891 Census and, at the moment, the only name close enough to mention is a Mary H Beare bn. Gulval about 1867.
I am suspecting that the Williams Connection MAY be a non-event but we need more information to clarify things.
If there is anything I have missed in the information already supplied by yourself then please let me know and I will try again. But, just now, this is the best I can come up with and it is a little confusing.
I think a contact with the OPC for Ludgvan would be a good step and I believe you should find that address on this site.
Any problems finding it - let me know and I will point you in the right direction.
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Post by genie on Jun 24, 2007 15:04:43 GMT -5
Mary Williams, maiden name Beare was the informant of her mother,Hannah's,death in March 1901. Mary,or Minnie as she was known,was living at 26,North Parade,Camborne.
I also had a look at the Gulval baptsims and some of the Beare's are there.
1863-25th Feb William James Beare parents James and Ann Beare - Punjoe private baptism.(don't what happened to him)
1863-2nd May Sarah Ann (she died age 12 at Marazion)- Punjoe 1863-2nd May - Punjoe Christianna she married Alban Lewis in 1891 Middlesex 1864-18th Oct. Richards Henry - Punjoe private Baptism ( don't know what happened to him) 1867-18th December Marianne baptised Penzance. 1880-17th December Annie Marazion.
I can't find George
I think that there is a good chance that Marianne could be Mary Ann.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 24, 2007 16:26:27 GMT -5
Hmmm - I am tired at the moment but get the indication that the Beare children of Ludgvan were baptised at Gulval??
I do not have a problem with that as Gulval and Ludgvan share East/West boundaries (basically) and I have seen a number of things in the past that have indicated that a lot of events at Ludgvan may have been recorded at Gulval.
This is 'top of the head' stuff just now but I will try to pursue it further in the next few days.
If I don't get back to you soon enough - just PM me - but I do have a few other things to attend to just now.
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Post by genie on Jun 24, 2007 17:47:55 GMT -5
I have just found George Beare's birth and baptism on LDS. Not that I have been on the internet all night!
Birth 29 JAN 1869 Christening 23 JUL 1869 Ludgvan, Cornwall, England
In fact most of the Beare's on Ludgvan births are related to each other.
Will have to look for Annie another time.
That's it for tonight.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 24, 2007 18:19:14 GMT -5
Agreed - let me know what you find and I will work from there. signed - extremely tired.
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