The Zennor/Phillack connection

[Zenobia]

Eeeee! Something is starting to fall together!

Ian posted the following Phillack baptisms in the John 1654 thread:

Joane Phillippe d/o James bp. 12th August 1580
John Phillippe s/o James bp. 25th February 1582
Katheryn Philip d/o James bp. 13th March 1583
Thomas Phillippe s/o James bp. 26th September 1585
Agnes Phillippe d/o James bp. 6th March 1587
Priscilla Phillippe d/o James bp. 1st January 1591
Pascha Phillip d/o James bp. 17th Novmember 1593
Anne Phillipe d/o James bp. 12th October 1595
Pascus Phillip d/o James bp. 15th April 1598
JAMES PHILIP s/o MATTHEW bp. 21st March 1599

Looking thru my probate database, I found the following:


THOMAS PHILLIP, husbandman, of Zennor

written: 10 Nov 1642
proved: 4 Dec 1645

"being prest for the wars in the King's Majestie's service, doubting of my return"

brother: JAMES PHILLIP 6 d.
sister: JANE PHILLIP 6 d.
sister: PASKUS DANYELL 6 d.
MARY her daughter 2 sh. 6 d.?
WILLIAM DANYELL 2 sh. 6 d.
ELIZABETH DANYELL her daughter 2 sh. 6 d.
SIBELL DAVY "for the natural love & affection I bear unto her" all my right in Busswednack until after the death of my mother ELIZABETH PHILLIPS; also all the rest & executrix

Thomas ( ) Phillips

witnesses: SAM: SWEETE, vicar, JOHN ( ) PHILLIP, GEORGE ( ) THOMAS

Inventory 25 November 1645 by JAMES PHILLIPS & NICHOLAS HOSKIN

AP/P/899

This Thomas would appear to be the man chr. at Phillack to James.

It would appear that James (the father) migrated to Zennor by about 1600. I presume that the brother James listed in the will was born at Zennor, shortly afterward.

Sisters Paskus and Jane (apparently Joane) are both represented in the will.

Brother John is not. Was he deceased? Or simply not left anything? Certainly there is a John Philip who was one of the witnesses, as well as the inventorier James Phillip, who I presume was the brother.

Could John who witnessed the will be a son of Thomas' brother John? (assuming that the latter did indeed predecease Thomas)

The one major discrepancy is that Thomas gives his mother as Elizabeth, not Katherine. Did James' first wife die before Thomas' birth and he quickly remarried? Or is Elizabeth really a stepmother, who came along a bit later but raised many of the children?

The mention of Boswednack is very helpful also, as James, son of Mathew also held some interest in that property according to his will.

One further note: Matthew Philips had two inventories taken. Usually when this happens it indicates goods in two different parishes. One of his inventoriers was John Payne, gent, probably the same man who married Jane Adams in Phillack in 1605.

[Cornish Terrier]

Can see your thinking here and much of it does seem to look good but .....

You correctly point out the anomaly with the name of the mother being Elizabeth instead of Katherine.

You also point out the names of the sisters named in the Will as matching those of the Phillack Baptisms.

My main problem here is that, by your summary (based on my supplied information) Thomas was the lad baptised in 1685 at Phillack. (This works fine given there is a younger sister Paskus who could well have been the girl who married William Danyell.)

Thomas then writes his Will in 1642 when he would have been 57 years old.

I would have thought, even in those days, that 57 was getting a bit long in the tooth for:-

"being prest for the wars in the King's Majestie's service, doubting of my return"

Perhaps if we can dig up the marriage of Paskus to William Daniell it might be of help.

More to come as soon as I get it sorted.

[Cornish Terrier]

Whoops - should have thought a bit more before I posted my last.

Have tried to do a bit of research in the last couple of hours to try and sort out this situation but have been having some difficulty.

However, I have found nothing so far to indicate any 'change in the rules' from 1569 through the 1640's.

In this case I must say that it is quite possible that the Thomas Phillips involved in this note is probably who you reckon he is.

The fact that he would have been 57 in 1642 keeps him within the bounds of the Military Muster of the times whereby "all freemen between the ages of 15 and 60 ....." etc.

It appears Thomas was a single man as he mentioned no wife or children in his Will. He did, however, mention SIBELL DAVY "for the natural love & affection I bear unto her".

So - who was SIBELL DAVY

And did Thomas' father indeed marry twice

OR was he the James Phillips buried at Phillack in 1602.

SOMETHING more to add to this mix.

We know there a inter-Parish connections involved with this family and St Erth is one of those.

I cannot find a Phillips marriage at St Erth up through about 1619 but the following can be offered from the (apparently) legible entries for baptisms at St Erth:-

? (daur) of James Philip bp. 1st May 1600
Androwe s. of James Phillipps bp. 20th March 1601

The next baptism I can find at St Erth:-

Humfrye s. of Phillipe Phillipes bp. 17th September 1615

Phillips Burials at St Erth:-

M.... Phillips of Bossens?; 21st November 1593
John Phillips 1st January 1620
Elizabeth Phillipe 12th January 1621

No further record apparent through 1640.

Don't know if that helps or hinders but it is certainly interesting and worth consideration.

Another point for Phillack - there was an Anne d. of James Phillips buried there 6th May 1617.
Now, was this the Ann bp. in 1595 or are we now looking at the possibility of another James in the area.

Closing now so that I can prepare my next.