There are three surviving collections of Devon wills:
1. Charles Worthy "Devonshire Wills - a collection of annotated testamentary abstracts, together with the family history and genealogy of many of the most ancient gentle houses of the West of England" LDS film # 246879
2. Oswyn-Murray Collection of wills ca. 1600-1800 (available in 20 volumes on film, also thru LDS)
3. Olive M. Moger - Transcripts of Devonshire Wills, 1600-1800. (44 volumes on film - LDS)
Mind you - these are for Devon only, no Cornish ones for the Diocese of Exeter were included.
There may also be some transcription in the Devon Notes and Queries Series that were missed in these three volumes.
These do not comprise all of the missing Devon wills, many are just irretrievably lost...
Hello everyone After a long gap I have been casually looking at the Phillips family again and I re-read this topic. I wonder if the Francis son of John and Matthew son of James mentioned in the1628 Matthew will are really grandsons of that Matthew or whether they are nephews or similar. The reason for this wondering is that the extract has Thomas and James specifically mentioned as children of Matthew and Alice specified as a daughter of a son, but there is no such qualification for the other two. Also if the extract reflects the shape of the will then James and Alice are mentoed in a different place to Matthew son of James. Just a thought.....
Post by myghaelangof on Aug 7, 2008 16:24:42 GMT -5
Hi guys, dont know if this is any help in identifying the John Phillips, but I've just reviewed the 1641 Subsidy Roll for Zennor. This lists 12 payers of the subsidy including Johes Phillip of Trevial. Johns' entry is the only one containing a place of abode within the parish, suggesting a second John was in circulation at the time. (Independently listed is Jacobus Phillip)
Given the date, 1641, which is after the 1639 death of John who married Elnor, it suggests yet another John? The closest spelt modern day places on the OS maps are Treveal and Trevail Mill which are on the North coast fairly equidistant between the churches of Zennor, Towednack and St.Ives. The easiest walk probably being to Towednack.
The John and Francis lines continue to elude, and now the later Matthew Phillips' get more perplexing!
Post by myghaelangof on Aug 8, 2008 7:54:49 GMT -5
Hi Trencrom and Londoner, thanks for your comments and thoughts.
I dont know that stretch of the coast, but topographically it looked easier on the OS map to walk up the valley towards Towednack. I think I might just do the Coffin walk next week, and see how spectacular it is. Should be in Just next Friday for a week or so, providing I find some decent b&b! Have definitely got Friday to Monday sorted.
I went to The National Archives last year and looked at the original rolls, mainly focussing on trying to find Penberthy/Shakerley in St Just, but I did photograph one or two other local rolls whilst there. The fact that John's entry was the only one with a place name still suggests to me the presence of another John, and this is a way of identifying a particular man. It could be a 'label' that stuck with him even after the other John died 1639.
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