Post by Cornish Terrier on Sept 23, 2007 10:57:58 GMT -5
Ain't this fun.
You are quite correct about the Witness to the marriage of Samuel Barker and Clarinda Trewhella.
I must admit that, when I copied the data from the original PR at the CRO back 1994, I neglected to note the names of the witnesses.
But I have just found the particular record from the St Ives OPR site.
Witnesses were - Thomas BEHENNA and Thomas WILLIAMS
Have just spoken to cousin Nancy in Truro and the name should be BEHENNA and not BOHENNA when talking of the family of 'Henry Irving'.
James BEHENNA Smith bp. 21st September 1806 at Paul s/o Henry SMITH and Catherine
The above from IGI.
From Phillimore & Taylor Marriages for Paul
Henry SMITH m. Catherine PAUL 23rd May 1795
Other baptisms at Paul (IGI):-
Asenath d/o Henry & Cathe Smith bp. 15th May 1796 Catharine d/o Henry & Catharine Smith bp. 3rd December 1797 Henry s/o Henry & Catherine Smith bp. 13th April 1800 Edward s/o Henry & Catherine Smith bp. 16th September 1803
Not much help, so far, with the BEHENNA connection but it is at least something more to work on.
** IGI shows 200+ matches on the name BEHENNA (and var.) **
I have not, as yet, tried to check through them all to find any more on the above but it is something to perhaps think about looking at.
Hi Behenna/Bohanna researchers I've only just found this thread after googling the name Behenna. I descend from the line you're talking about and have a lot of data going back to the early C17th. If you are still interested in solving any of these queries I may well be able to help. Would love to hear back from any of you anyway as there are probably things you can help me with to!!!
I'd be very interested to know if the elusive James Behenna Smith ever found a home as I haven't been able to place him either.
Hi all I know I'm very late coming onto this thread but I've only just found it through googling the Behenna surname.
I am descended from this Behenna family and have lots of info that would help to solve these queries if you've not already done so. You may also be able to help me fill in some blanks which would be great.
Unfortunately I don't know what the connection is between the Thomas family and the large Behenna family. However maybe we can come up with something together. Firstly you said in one of your posts that Sir Henry was a good friend of the Thomas' - I wonder if you could give a bit more information on that please? Also I seem to remember reading somewhere recently that when John Henry was young he had some elocution lessons with a couple and I believe this was when he was living in Halsetown with his aunt, Sarah Penberthy - is there any chance this couple may have been Thomas'? I may have got myself totally muddled so I hope I'm not leading you up the garden path so to speak
I will continue with my details of the Behenna family that are relevant to your queries although I realise some have been answered previously it will help to confirm them for you.
I think the best thing is to start at the marriage of Thomas Behenna and Catherine Curnow on 16-Nov-1796 in Mawnan Parish Church. Thomas was born about 1769 in Kea, the son of Isaac Behenna and Elizabeth Behenna. Catherine was born about 1772 in St Ives the daughter of Paul Curnow and Sarah Ninnes.
I'm aware of 11 children of Thomas and Catherine:
i. Catherine b. c. 1798 in Lelant, she married William Parsons in 1822 and they had 5 children.
ii. Thomas Behenna b. c. 1799 in Lelant, died 1803 in Lelant.
iii. Sarah Behenna (known as Sally) b. c. 1800 in Lelant, she married Isaac Penberthy in 1830 and they had 5 children.
iv. Charlotte Behenna b. c. 1802 in St Ives, she married John Perry in 1837.
v. Thomas Behenna b. c. 1804 in Lelant and died in 1804.
vi. Joshua Behenna b. c. 1805 in Lelant, he married Elizabeth Banfield in 1842 and they had 3 children. Joshua died in 1864.
vii. Mary Behenna b. c. 1808 in Lelant, she married Samuel Brodribb in 1835. They had one son, John Henry Brodribb born in 1838, who later became Sir Henry Irving. Samuel was a Traveling Salesman and when Mary and Samuel moved to London in 1842 they decided to send John to live with his aunt Sarah Penberthy in Halsetown Cornwall. He stayed there until his uncle Isaac died in 1849. Mary died in 1869.
viii. Eliza Behenna b. c. 1810 in Lelant, she married John Penberthy in 1833. (I believe John was a brother of Isaac Penberthy Sarah Behennas husband.) The family emigrated to the USA just after the 1841 census. They had 6 children, the eldest three were born in England the other 3 in the USA.
ix. Jane Behenna b. c. 1811 in St Ives, she married John Victor in 1845. They had 3 children. John was a noted Teacher and Preacher and spent the last forty years of his life as Pastor of Copse Road Chapel, Seavale Road, Clevedon (Wesleyan).
x. Ann or Nanny Behenna b. c. 1813 in St Ives, died in 1825.
xii. Thomas Behenna b. c. 1816 in St Ives. Thomas emigrated to Australia in 1841 and at some point before his marriage his name got changed to Bohanna. He married Hanorah (this varies in different records) Sheedy in 1844 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia. Hanorah was born in Cloonara, Co Clare, Ireland. A descendant of theirs, who I'm in touch with has a copy of the certificate. They had 7 children but I understand that only the eldest, Catherine Bohanna, married and had family. Thomas died in 1899 in Geelong Hospital, aged 82.
So this is the Behenna family you were seeking - if you want more information I have plenty.
I was interested to see your comment about John Penberthy, husband of the above Eliza Behenna, dying in Australia. That is not something I have anywhere. Although I do know from USA census records that by the time of the 1880 Eliza was a widow. Interestingly their eldest son, John, born 1834 in St Ives, emigrated from the USA to Australia in 1858 and initially lived with his uncle Thomas Bohanna in Geelong, then moved on to the Gold Rush town of Bendigo where he died in the Bendigo Benevolent Asylum in 1873. Maybe his father, John, had also gone out there to mine for gold
Well I think I've given you quite a bit to digest at the moment although there are some other bits I want to add - however my brain is addled now and needs food ;D
Post by calswimmer on Aug 29, 2008 17:23:51 GMT -5
Hi Stiltz: thanks for the good overview of the family. It is Thomas Behenna whom you list as x11. who is the one who lives with my Richard Thomas ( and Charity Bawden Thomas) family in 1841 shortly before he goes off to Australia. My ancestor is their daughter Mary Jane. Mary Jane didn't live to be terribly old but apparently she was interesting enough to have information about her passed down through the generations. She and her brothers were good friends of Sir Henry it is said, and while he did live with Penberthys and while Mary Jane did marry a Penberthy, what was passed down was that it was the Thomas family that was closer to him than the Penberthy's, at least our Penberthys. And it seemed to me it was likely a connection through family that went back aways. So when I see Thomas Behenna living in Richard Thomas's household, I wonder how I can dig up a connection. So, any ideas?
Post by calswimmer on Aug 29, 2008 19:23:30 GMT -5
To be more specific about the friendship with John Brodribb aka Henry Irving-- I am told that the Thomas children and also the Penberthy children were friends with him, played soccer and so on together when he was in Halsetown and that later when Brodribb went to London the Thomas family was still great friends with him. One of them also lived in London.
Found the connection I had for John Henry Brodribb with some Thomas' -
'The beginning of Brodribb's theatrical career came through an elocution class which was taught by Mr. and Mrs. Henry Thomas, where the focus of the acting exercises was to pull actors away from the current "rant" style, and into a much more subdued naturalistic form of acting. The program gave Brodribb, who had pretty much conquered his stammer, his first chance on stage, where, among other things, he had a successful turn in the role of Captain Jack Absolute in Sheridan's Rivals.'
(Unfortunately I can't remember where I found this biography although it would definitely have been on the internet.)