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Post by junket on Oct 26, 2007 9:24:56 GMT -5
I have received the marriage certificate, of my 2 x g grandparents. William and Mary Vivian.
Mary is noted as Mary BOAG, from St Ewe, in 1885, time of marriage. Father William, is deceased. ( In 1891, on census, birthplace, is given as St Enoder ).
I cannot find the Boag surname, on the census records, or in BMD., for Cornwall.
I was wondering, if anyone else, may have come across the BOAG surname in Cornwall, please ?
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Post by cornishmaid on Oct 26, 2007 12:18:47 GMT -5
Hi Junket It certainly seems that the Boag family were few and far between in Cornwall. The only ones I can find at the moment online are: Richard Boag, baptised 26 December 1838 in St Dennis; Father: Zebedee Boag, Mother: Sarah. Charlotte Boag, who in the 1861 Census aged 24 and living in Padstow. Address: Fentonluna Lane, Ivey Cottage, Padstow. She was with a Mary Edwards age 71 who was born in Tenby. Charlotte is listed as 24 years old, Housekeeper, born Lanteglos by Fowey, Cornwall. Apart from these there is a Jane "Bog" who was baptised 9 August 1612 at Linkinhorne, Father: Gregory Bog. I have searched the Cornwall Record Office catalogue under Boag but there is nothing online under that spelling. I also did a quick search on National Archives, but again nothing. I also had a quick look on the St Enoder website. There is a burial for a Henry Bone, but the surname has a question mark against it. He was buried 1 January 1881, age 80, of Enoder. Have to go out shortly, but will try and have another look for you later.
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Post by myghaelangof on Oct 26, 2007 13:08:03 GMT -5
Would this family fit? I did a google search for Zebedee in Cornwall, came up with Brag, and this family on the 1881 census. Would Mary have been 25/26 when she married? Dwelling: Boscoppa Downs Census Place: St Austell, Cornwall, England Source: FHL Film 1341552 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2301 Folio 86 Page 19 William W. BRAGG M 56 M St Austell, Cornwall, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer 19 Acres Elizabeth A. BRAGG M 44 F St Ewe, Cornwall, England Rel: Wife Occ: ((Farmers Wife)) Mary BRAGG U 22 F St Austell, Cornwall, England Rel: Daur Occ: ((Farmers Daur)) Elizabeth BRAGG U 19 F St Austell, Cornwall, England Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker William BRAGG U 17 M St Austell, Cornwall, England Rel: Son Occ: Farm Labourer (Indoor) Albert J. BRAGG 4 M St Austell, Cornwall, England Rel: Son Phoebe BRAGG 3 F St Austell, Cornwall, England Rel: Daur Ellen BRAGG 2 F St Austell, Cornwall, England
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Post by junket on Oct 27, 2007 1:35:13 GMT -5
Thank you cornishmaid and myghaelangof.
Mary, was 31 and a spinster at time of marriage. the surname, is 4 letters begins with B and ends with either a y or a g.
I have ordered my g grandmother's Birth cert., in the hope that her mother's surname may be clearly written on there.
I appreciate your help and suggestions, this one is proving a difficult one so far.
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Post by junket on Oct 27, 2007 2:31:48 GMT -5
I have followed the Bragg family, in 1891, to charlestown. Elizabeth is a widow, no Mary at home and there is a young child called Beatrice.
Mary and William called one of their daughters, Beatrice.
COCP and Freecen, have Elizabeth, the mother as aged 47, in 1891, she was 44 in 1881, otherwise, so far, this is looking the most promising possibility, so far.
Thank you.
The birth cert., has arrived and the surnamelooks like BRAY>. ( Also I looked at the Bragg family in 1871 and 1861, there was a Louisa but no Mary in 1871 and just Elizh J in 1851 ).
Thanks for your help, it was much appreciated.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 28, 2007 13:08:28 GMT -5
Hello Junket We always try to be patient and it does not matter if you have just started or have been researching your family for years. I have been offline for some time due to problems outside my control so am catching up on a few things and have read your note with a little interest. The name of BOAG rings only bells to do with Launceston, Tasmania, where BOAG'S Brewery is located. (Don't like that particular beer myself but ....) But I got to thinking about the name and have looked at a couple of things in comparison to your notes. I too thought the 'Boag' name might be an error, particularly given the findings of 'Cornishmaid', and was of the opinion that 'Bray' might have been more likely. However, to my knowledge, Bray is more of a name from around areas a little further West than St Ewe so my curiosity was aroused. I have just done a search of the FreeBMD site and found something interesting for you. St Catherine's House Marriage Index:- Apr-Jun 1885 St Austell Reg. Dist. Vol 5c Pg 167 Mary BOAG William Arthur VIVIAN The actual Index of St Catherine's House Marriages also shows the name as BOAG. I think I have found your family in the 1891 Census but can, so far, offer nothing further for you on that point. It may take some days for me to consider this and do some more research (after thinking of alternate possibilites) but I will certainly monitor progress and see what I might come up with for you. If I disappear for a while it will be 1. because my 'server' is down again or 2. because I am in the process of moving. We are here for you and will help as best we can.
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Post by junket on Oct 30, 2007 12:38:39 GMT -5
Thank you cornish terrier.
I too am experiencing computer problems..I am offline at the moment but am able to use OH's computer, when it is free.
Yes, you have found my family.
Could I ask, what the St Catherine's House Marriage, is, please ? I am curremtly searching, for Mary Bray, pre 1885 but she is provimg to be a little harder to find, than William Arthur. I have some possibilites and am busy trying to eliminate them. I cannot find a Baptism for her on the St Enoder ( birthplace given on 1891 census ) website. But there are Baptisms for children, to a William and MAry Bray. Also a burial, for a William Bray in 1856.
Thank you.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 30, 2007 12:49:15 GMT -5
St Catherine's House was where Registrations of Birth, Death and Marriage were centrally recorded from July 1837. An Index of these events is available and may be found online. It can be a little difficult to search but can be very useful. In Google (and probably any other search engine) just type in 'freebmd; and you will find a list of alternatives. The first of these should be:- FreeBMD Home Page (brief description of Project follows) After this will be a list of links of which the first should be 'Search FreeBMD'. Click on this and you should be able to start working. A search of Births for Mary BOAG produced quite a few entries but almost all were in the Tyneside or Newcastle area with a very few in the Southern part of England. Have a play around with this and see what you think of it.
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