Post by marktrengove on Jun 3, 2007 17:07:57 GMT -5
THE ORIGINS OF THE NAME 'TRENGOVE'
Traditional histories of the Nance and Trengove familes have associated the name 'Trengove' ('Tre-angoff': Cornish: 'home of the blacksmith') with the manor farm, still of that name, near Illogan. Alexander Nance, perhaps knighted by Henry Tudor after the Battle of Bosworth, is meant to have made this manor his residence, assuming the alias 'Trengove'.
So far I have found no evidence to link in blood-line the Trengoves who lived around Ponsanooth from the 16th Century with the aristocratic Nance/Trengoves of Illogan. It seems more likely that they took the location name 'of Trengove' from leasing land in the area from the Illogan Nance/Trengoves. This name 'stuck' and developed into a surname in later times.
I have recently begun to have doubts that the name 'Trengove' originated at the manor farm near Illogan, as is generally held at the current time. This is due to information recently supplied to me by Kathie Weigel and Wendy Angove, for which thanks.
FACT 1
A 'Thomas de Trengove', a chaplain was involved in some land transactions in East Cornwall in 1370/71 at Linkinhorne (near Launceston) and St Peterwin [source: Feet of Fines].
FACT 2
A 'John Trengoffe' was vicar at St Neot, south of Bodmin Moor, in the second half of the 14th Century [source: book on the history of Glasney College, Penryn].
FACT 3
John Trengoffe was believed to be the father of a 'Walter Trengofe'. As John was a priest, Walter, if his son, must have been born out of wedlock. His illegitimacy did not hold young Walter back. He was Fellow of Exeter College, Oxford from 1403 to 1417, and then Chancellor of Oxford University from 1418 to1420. He became Provost of Glasney from 1427 to 1436 [source: as above].
FACT 4
A Richard Trengoffe is recorded on IGI as having connections with the Manor of Tremure, Lanivet (near Bodmin) and Penheale (near Launceston), in the early 16th Century.
FACT 5
A family of Trengove makes an appearance in the parish of St Cleer, south of Bodmin Moor in the 1730s: a James, who married a Mary Comb at St Cleer in 1730, and had children James (bap.1731), Mary (bap.1735) and Jane (bap.1737), all at St Cleer.
The theme that runs through all Facts 1, 2, 4 and 5 is a connection with the area south of Bodmin Moor. 1.5km south of Warleggan, which lies south of Bodmin Moor, is a farm still called 'Trengoffe'. It can be found at about UK grid reference SX 158 676. This manor is attested as being owned by the descendants of Henry Nance of Illogan (d.1561) in the 17th and 18th Centuries, who seemed to have re-assumed the alias 'Trengoffe' when they moved there, having sold their lands around Illogan etc to meet their debts.
Given the connection of the name 'Trengoffe' with various clergymen in the area south of Bodmin Moor as far back as 1370 (long before Sir Alexander Nance occupied Trengove near Illogan), it seems a reasonable conclusion that the manor near Warleggan was called 'Trengoffe' long before it became the principal residence of Henry Nance's descendants. It may well be the case that the name 'Trengoffe' originates from that manor south of Warleggan, and not Illogan.
And there is another interesting loose end: one of Walter Trengofe's sucessors as Provost of Glasney, from 1497 to 1501 was a John Nans!
Traditional histories of the Nance and Trengove familes have associated the name 'Trengove' ('Tre-angoff': Cornish: 'home of the blacksmith') with the manor farm, still of that name, near Illogan. Alexander Nance, perhaps knighted by Henry Tudor after the Battle of Bosworth, is meant to have made this manor his residence, assuming the alias 'Trengove'.
So far I have found no evidence to link in blood-line the Trengoves who lived around Ponsanooth from the 16th Century with the aristocratic Nance/Trengoves of Illogan. It seems more likely that they took the location name 'of Trengove' from leasing land in the area from the Illogan Nance/Trengoves. This name 'stuck' and developed into a surname in later times.
I have recently begun to have doubts that the name 'Trengove' originated at the manor farm near Illogan, as is generally held at the current time. This is due to information recently supplied to me by Kathie Weigel and Wendy Angove, for which thanks.
FACT 1
A 'Thomas de Trengove', a chaplain was involved in some land transactions in East Cornwall in 1370/71 at Linkinhorne (near Launceston) and St Peterwin [source: Feet of Fines].
FACT 2
A 'John Trengoffe' was vicar at St Neot, south of Bodmin Moor, in the second half of the 14th Century [source: book on the history of Glasney College, Penryn].
FACT 3
John Trengoffe was believed to be the father of a 'Walter Trengofe'. As John was a priest, Walter, if his son, must have been born out of wedlock. His illegitimacy did not hold young Walter back. He was Fellow of Exeter College, Oxford from 1403 to 1417, and then Chancellor of Oxford University from 1418 to1420. He became Provost of Glasney from 1427 to 1436 [source: as above].
FACT 4
A Richard Trengoffe is recorded on IGI as having connections with the Manor of Tremure, Lanivet (near Bodmin) and Penheale (near Launceston), in the early 16th Century.
FACT 5
A family of Trengove makes an appearance in the parish of St Cleer, south of Bodmin Moor in the 1730s: a James, who married a Mary Comb at St Cleer in 1730, and had children James (bap.1731), Mary (bap.1735) and Jane (bap.1737), all at St Cleer.
The theme that runs through all Facts 1, 2, 4 and 5 is a connection with the area south of Bodmin Moor. 1.5km south of Warleggan, which lies south of Bodmin Moor, is a farm still called 'Trengoffe'. It can be found at about UK grid reference SX 158 676. This manor is attested as being owned by the descendants of Henry Nance of Illogan (d.1561) in the 17th and 18th Centuries, who seemed to have re-assumed the alias 'Trengoffe' when they moved there, having sold their lands around Illogan etc to meet their debts.
Given the connection of the name 'Trengoffe' with various clergymen in the area south of Bodmin Moor as far back as 1370 (long before Sir Alexander Nance occupied Trengove near Illogan), it seems a reasonable conclusion that the manor near Warleggan was called 'Trengoffe' long before it became the principal residence of Henry Nance's descendants. It may well be the case that the name 'Trengoffe' originates from that manor south of Warleggan, and not Illogan.
And there is another interesting loose end: one of Walter Trengofe's sucessors as Provost of Glasney, from 1497 to 1501 was a John Nans!