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Post by marktrengove on Apr 24, 2007 17:02:50 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything of the history of the Illogan family of Saundryes, paricularly 1500-1550?
The Illogan Baptismal Register shows a Chesten Saundrye, dau. of Peares Saundry Bap. 14 June 1539.
John Richard Trengove of Trengove-vyan had a son called Saundrye, and I wonder if he has his mother's maiden name for his forename.
Was Chesten John Richard's wife, perhaps, or maybe another sister?
Mark T
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 25, 2007 10:05:43 GMT -5
Mark - at this stage I have to say 'no' although I do have Saundry people in my research interests.
From memory, for the moment, my Saundry people are more Madron and area including the likes of Horatio Mann Saundry.
And then there was Eliza Ninnes Saundry who married a William Trewhella.
Keep working with this thread and I will try to sort out more of my Saundry people to see if there might be some link somewhere.
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Post by Zenobia on Apr 25, 2007 20:00:24 GMT -5
Saundry of course is a patronymic surname, as the given name Saundry is a pet name for Alexander. So it is possible that John Richard's son was just named Alexander. However, the Saundry connection would still be worth looking into.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 26, 2007 16:07:37 GMT -5
NYUK, NYUK NYUK! - A little help from Pawley-White SANDRY, SAUNDRY - From sentry: sanctuary, glebe. Found in Mid and North Cornwall. Hope this is of interest while I have my head buried in other stuff!  |
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Post by Zenobia on Apr 26, 2007 18:02:36 GMT -5
Well, I did a quick search on the UK census for Saundry, and they are all in Cornwall except for about 3, so I guees you and Pawley are right!  The surname Sanders derives from Alexander, so I always just assumed Saundry did also...  |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Apr 26, 2007 23:44:05 GMT -5
Actually - the 'nickname' for people named Alexander is 'SANDY' as a rule.
But there are always exceptions to rules - as we know.
It could be interesting to pursue this line, especially given that there are connections between Saundry and Trewhella families.
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Post by Zenobia on May 2, 2007 17:14:42 GMT -5
Actually - the 'nickname' for people named Alexander is 'SANDY' as a rule. But there are always exceptions to rules - as we know. It could be interesting to pursue this line, especially given that there are connections between Saundry and Trewhella families. Ah hah! I knew I had a basis for my statement: In Gwithian: 1611, John son of Bennet Harry & Elizabeth daughter of William Michell iiii November (married) 1619, Alexander son of John Harry xxiiij May (christened) 1624 William Mitchell 27 June (buried) And the will of William Michell, father of Elizabeth and father-in-law of John Harry names John's three living children at the time (1624). The second child name is: SAUNDRIE, JOHN HARRY's son 10 sh. There is also a rather prominent man in Gwithian named Gentle Saundry, and about 50% of the time in the PR he is called Gentle Sanders. So, glebe or no glebe, I stand by my original assertion that in Cornwall at least, the surname Saundry is derived from Alexander and is a patronimic. It must be a Celtic thing, as in Scotland the nickname for Alexander is Sawney, very similar, but in England in general Sanders is used.  |
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Post by rsaundry on Jun 6, 2013 2:42:49 GMT -5
Hi there. It looks like a while ago since anything was posted regarding the Saundry line in Cornwall, however I just wanted to highlight that I am one (Saundry) and have studied my tree for years and would be interested to share information. I also have a few photos!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 6, 2013 12:24:09 GMT -5
Hi to you also ..... and Welcome to Penwith Genealogy.
I have only two known direct connections to any of my Trewhella families and they are all related. At this point I believe the line goes back to the marriage at St Just in 1782 between Edward Saundry and Elizabeth Man.
Their son James was married twice. I know of one child from the first marriage to Margaret Williams and six children from the second marriage to Amelia Ninnis. The two children of interest are Eliza Ninnis Saundry bp. 15th August 1817 Penzance and Horatioa Mann Saundry bp. 6th January 1828 Penzance.
William Trewhella married Eliza Ninnis Saundry at Madron 12th August 1843 and amongst their children was son James Saundry Trewhella born 1845.
Harotio Man Saundry married Eliza Jane Hosking at Madron 4th September 1860 and had 2 sons that I know of - James (1861-1944) and John Watson Saundry born about 1865.
John Watson Saundry married Amelia Harris Trewhella (daughter of James Sanudry Trewhella) at the Marazion Wesleyan Church in 1900.
CT
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Post by rsaundry on Jun 10, 2013 13:02:36 GMT -5
Thank-you for the welcome.
I have yet to go as in depth with the Saundry line as you have due to the fact that I tend to filter off to another branch of my tree as I hit the jackpot of linking one person to the other! The Saundry line is my project for this year and will be sure to share any additional information.
What I can say is that my Saundry line is traced so far just back to the mid/late 1800's to the Gwennap and St Agnes areas...all of whom were Miners/Engine Workers and the females were Dress Maker's or Mine Girls. I know through speaking to my late family members that some Saundry's emigrated to the USA and became factory owners???
As I'm brand new to this forum I'm not sure if this is the correct area to share an interest in other surnames on my tree, however if anyone reads this I have much more to share with regards to the following surnames linked in Cornwall: BASHER, YEO, VARKER, MARTIN, LUKE, ROWE, LOBB, PASCOE, TROUNSON, PEARN, VIGUS & LAURY.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 10, 2013 18:01:00 GMT -5
Sounds familiar! I tend to get started on a particular family or part of a family and find myself meandering in all sorts of directions as links are found or memories old problems tweaked. I can be in the middle of one problem and then spend days on another before I get back to the original problem! Never mind - it all leads to results in the end.  You have quite a few names in your list of interests. Some have been discussed before and others not and it is a reasonable possibility that those names spread through a number of different Parishes. What I try to encourage here is to deal with names as much as possible without fragmenting into numerous threads. So I suggest that before you post a query or start a discussion about any one particular name that you try to determine in which Parish a particular name or family is more prominent. For example, if your particular Lobb family was mostly around (e.g.) Illogan then it would be best to place the query/discussion with that Parish. You will note that there are a number of names that have their own forum. Those were the names of most interest when PG was first set up but it became apparent that a separate forum for every Cornish surname would not be possible. There is a similar problem with the Parishes given there are around 260 of them. But the site was set up initially for those with interests and surnames in West Penwith so there is a separate Parish board to cover all of that area. So, if a surname of interest already has a forum then place your query/discussion there. If there is no surname forum and the name belongs to a Parish in West Penwith then place the query/discussion in the Parish of interest. Anything outside of those boundaries is probably best initiated in the Queries section. I can more conversations/discussions to more appropriate areas where necessary. So settle yourself in and have fun. CT |
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Post by janet on Jan 26, 2018 2:19:00 GMT -5
Hi all,
I'm not sure if this thread is still active but I stumbled upon it in during my ongoing search for Cornish Saundry's. I have a 3rd G-Grandfather - Peter Saundry b.1805 ish apparently in Fanborough, Ireland according to the census notes. His daughter Dorothy married a Joseph Bickham and had my Great Grandmother Amelia.
I can't find Fanborough Ireland anywhere and as they signed with only X marks on their marriage certificates, they were obviously illiterate. So the names on the Census would only be verbal interpretations. He may have had an acccent and was saying Sondry...who knows. If anyone can shed any light, I'd be thrilled. As far as I know they were from Bodmin.I was born in Cornwall but Live in Australia.
Cheers
Jane
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Post by saundryandrea67 on Dec 18, 2018 0:21:08 GMT -5
Hi to you also ..... and Welcome to Penwith Genealogy. I have only two known direct connections to any of my Trewhella families and they are all related. At this point I believe the line goes back to the marriage at St Just in 1782 between Edward Saundry and Elizabeth Man. Their son James was married twice. I know of one child from the first marriage to Margaret Williams and six children from the second marriage to Amelia Ninnis. The two children of interest are Eliza Ninnis Saundry bp. 15th August 1817 Penzance and Horatioa Mann Saundry bp. 6th January 1828 Penzance. William Trewhella married Eliza Ninnis Saundry at Madron 12th August 1843 and amongst their children was son James Saundry Trewhella born 1845. Harotio Man Saundry married Eliza Jane Hosking at Madron 4th September 1860 and had 2 sons that I know of - James (1861-1944) and John Watson Saundry born about 1865. John Watson Saundry married Amelia Harris Trewhella (daughter of James Sanudry Trewhella) at the Marazion Wesleyan Church in 1900. CT |
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Post by saundryandrea67 on Jul 20, 2019 7:01:11 GMT -5
Hi , I live in Australia & I am related to Horatio Mann Saundry with direct links as a descendant if anyone has any other information going back further than Horacio I would be very interested , my name is Andrea Saundry
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 20, 2019 9:47:13 GMT -5
Hi Andrea - I have never done a lot of work on this family and my previous post that you have highlighted shows pretty much the extent of what I know.
Edward Saundry married Elizabeth Man at St Just in 1782 and had three children - Edward 1784, James 1787-1858 and Grace 1790.
James Saundry married first to Margaret Williams and had two children - Peggy Williams Saundry 1809 Penzance and James 1811 Penzance.
From his second marriage to Amelia Ninnis in 1816 James had another six children - Eliza Ninnis 1817-1882, Edward 1819, Wilmot 1821, Amelia 1823, Henry Harvey 1825 and Horation Mann 1828-1883.
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