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Post by marktrengove on Jul 12, 2007 17:45:11 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything about this manor, still there today?
It seems to have passed into the hands of John Nance of Illogan about 1580, when he foreclosed on a loan he had made to Martin of Trewynnarde, of St Erth.
The next mention I can find is a record in the House of Lords proceeedings dated 3 January 1647, concerning a case between Rt Hon Warwick Lord Mohun, to whom the title on the property had accrued in May 1643, and Sir Henry Carew, Charles Roscarrocke Esq et al.
Any thoughts on who owned it in the intervening years?
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Post by donne on Oct 31, 2007 12:45:08 GMT -5
I have a transcription of a deposition made in 1672 by Alexander Donne to Thomas Hawkins, the then owner of Trewinnard. This says that 60 years ago i.e 1612 Alexander's father Paschow Donne (one of my ancestors) 'did take upon a rack rent the Barton of Trewinnard from Sir Reynold Mohun'. The deposition seems to be in regard of the ownership of a watercourse. This deposition was collected by the Cornish historian Charles Henderson and is part of the Henderson Calendar held in the Courtney Library at the Royal Institution of Cornwall in Truro. Henderson's Calendar also includes an earlier deed (1556) regarding the watercourse, in which rights were granted to Martyn Trewinnard by Sir William Godolphin, mentioning that the watercourse ran through the tenement of Reginald Mohun.
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Post by trencrom on Oct 31, 2007 21:23:13 GMT -5
Trewinnard of St Erth were a minor gentry family --they appear in the herald's visitations. I was researching them a few years back.
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Post by donne on Nov 1, 2007 12:00:42 GMT -5
In Rowse's 'Tudor Cornwall. William Trewynnard is mentioned as the member of parliament for Helston in 1542, apparently famous for having given his name to the 'Trewynnard Case'. a court case concerning the privilege of a member for freedom of arrest for debt; he was imprisoned for a debt of £75 to John Skewes.
In John Leland's tours of 1534-43, Leland mentions Trewynnard as being in the possession of Mr Mohun. In footnotes to my edition of Leland's work, the editor (Pearse Chope) says that "The barton of Trewinnard in St Erth parish belonged to an ancient family of that name, two of whom were successive members for the county in the reign of Edward III. The last who appears to have possessed this barton was William Trewinnard, one of the members for Helston in the reign of Henry VIII. From the Trewinnards it passed to the Mohuns who some time resided at Trewinnard. This seems to have happened before Leland wrote his account."
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Post by marktrengove on Jan 9, 2008 18:26:28 GMT -5
All very interesting!
Between the Trewinnards and the Mohuns, in the last quarter of the 16th century, it appears the barton was in the hands of the Nance family of Illogan - in particular John Nance, son of Henry.
Has anyone heard of this Nance connection with the place before?
Mark T
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Post by trencrom on Jan 9, 2008 22:14:34 GMT -5
Perhaps the Victoria County History (see my thread on the same on the Cornish Resources board) may have some information on this estate and its ownership.
Trencrom
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Post by donne on Nov 21, 2009 10:22:37 GMT -5
All very interesting! Between the Trewinnards and the Mohuns, in the last quarter of the 16th century, it appears the barton was in the hands of the Nance family of Illogan - in particular John Nance, son of Henry. Has anyone heard of this Nance connection with the place before? Mark T An earlier post of mine referred to a transcript of Hawkins papers by Charles Henderson and of interest to me since it mentioned ancestors Pasckow and Alexander DONNE. Recently I called in at the Courtney Library in Truro and had a look at the originals and discovered other depositions made in 1672 from several aged persons all concerning rights of way and the rights to a watercourse running through Trewinnard and Tredrea. I find these documents very interesting because of the incidental comments on names, relationships and life in St Erth at that time. For example, a deposition (Ref: HA/5/58), dated 19 June 1672, from a John MANNING, described as "of St Earth, yeoman, aged ffowerscore yeares and upwards". John MANNING said that he lived in Tredrea for some time and that he remembered "when one Captaine NANCE lived att Trewinnard and that then one TREDREA then lived att Tredrea after whose decease his sonne John TREDREA dwelt att Tredrea who was Godfather unto me the said John MANNING". John MANNING makes his mark, and the paper is also signed by James MANNING as well as Thomas HAWKINS who would have been the owner of Trewinnard in 1672. |
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