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Post by cledry on Aug 12, 2021 21:14:38 GMT -5
Trying to sort out 3 different Catherine NICHOLLS.
The three Catherines married 3 men. I will refer to them as Catherine 1, 2 & 3.
(1) Catherine NICHOLLS married a William PENBERTHY on 7 JUN 1793 at Uny Lelant. These are my 4 x great grandparents.
(2) Catherine NICHOLLS married Daniel EDDY on 25 SEP 1797 at Gulval. These are my 4x great uncle and aunt
(3) Catherine NICHOLLS married John PHILLIPS on 14 OCT 1798 at Madron. She is my 1st cousin 6X removed.
I believe Catherine (2) to have been buried at Gulval on 22 APR 1823, she was a resident of St. Hilary at time of death. She was 56 at time of death so her birth was around 1767. Her husband Daniel EDDY was buried on 15 NOV 1831 at Gulval, also a resident of St. Hilary.
So there is a Catherine NICHOLLS bap 16 NOV 1772 at Gulval which could possibly be Catherine (2)
Moving on to Catherine (3), there is a Catherine NICHOLLS bap 25 JUL 1773 at Madron, possibly her?
Catherine (1) might have been the one baptised 21 SEP 1777 at Lelant to John NICOLLS and Mary.
Can't find an obvious burial for Catherine (1) or Catherine (3). Thoughts?
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 13, 2021 5:55:05 GMT -5
This is what I have in my database from previous work on the Nicholls families and those of interest linked to them:-
Catherine daughter of John Nicholls and Anne his wife baptised 19th November 1758 at Gulval (John Nicholls married Ann Jaspar 27th July 1754 at Paul) Catharine Penberthy of Amalveor age 78 buried 5th December 1836 at Towednack
4 children:- 1. Catherine bp. 9th February 1794 Lelant m. John Martins 9th December 1815 at Towednack 2. William bp. 27th December 1795 Lelant m. Ann Martins 20th August 1820 Towednack 3. Isaac bp. 25th April 1800 St Ives m. Christian Martin 28th April 1823 Towednack 4. John bp. 16th February 1803 St Ives m. Catherine Martins 26th March 1824 Towednack
I have not looked at this family since 2009 but I was fairly comfortable with my conclusions at the time.
Catherine daughter of Richard Nicholls bp. 16th November 1772 at Gulval (Richard Nicholls married Ann Nicholls 18th October 1760 at Gulval) Catherine Eddy of St Hilary age 56 buried 22nd April 1823 Gulval Daniel Eddy of St Hilary age 75 buried 15th November 1831 Gulval
7 children but I won't go into all of them right now.
I am in the middle of work on the Eddy families right now and completed the family of Daniel and Catherine recently.
This family was entered into my database way back in 2000 and nothing has been done since then. Consequently I currently have no idea who Catherine Nicholls might be and less idea of where John Phillips fits. All I have is five children all baptised at St Just in Penwith but as John and Catherine were both residing at Madron at the time of marriage I cannot guarantee if they are the true parents of these children without further research.
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Post by cledry on Aug 13, 2021 16:34:20 GMT -5
So based on the burial it would appear that Catherine PENBERTHY is the one bap in 1758. So I now need to see who the Catherine NICHOLLS bap 21 SEP 1777 at Lelant to John & Mary is.
It is interesting that all the PENBERTHY children married MARTINS!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 14, 2021 0:40:01 GMT -5
Well, there were quite a lot of Martins around Towednack at the time so perhaps purely coincidental. On the other hand there was a period doing the mid-1700s when three Trewhella siblings all married Trewhellas who were also all siblings .................. and both sets of siblings were first cousins!! CT
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Post by zibetha on Aug 14, 2021 1:58:02 GMT -5
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Post by cledry on Aug 14, 2021 2:12:02 GMT -5
Thanks zibetha, I will look into it.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 14, 2021 2:46:39 GMT -5
I think this is certainly a daughter of William Penberthy and Catherine Nicholls given there appears to be no other possible William/Catherine marriage. (That includes Katherine, Christian and other variations)
Lelant registers for that period are very difficult to read due to wear and other damage but as there is no baptism evident in the BTs or nearby Parishes I would suggest the possibility the child died unbaptized.
I should add that the year is definitely 1798.
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Post by donne on Aug 14, 2021 4:44:38 GMT -5
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 14, 2021 5:36:56 GMT -5
Thanks Roger - yes, I do have copies of those Exeter BTs for Lelant. Definitely much easier to read although navigation can be a little awkward due to the way the pages were filmed.
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