I have recently persuaded a fellow WikiTreer that it was Jane Bond and not Jane Bands that married John James in Gulval 19 February 1757. I do hope I am correct. The only proof I have is the entry in Cornwall OPC web page. The same entry is on FamilySearch and I have not found a mention of her in newspapers of the time.
The birth date I have is 1736 but I have no idea where I found that. For the death date once again I am relying on Cornwall OPC and have the date of 14 January 1794 in Gulval.
I would appreciate any comments. Thank you Jean Price, Rangiora, New Zealand
It's always a good idea to go back to original sources and in the case of Gulval you have the opportunity to look at the original marriage entry recorded on the parish register image on the FamilySearch website by following this link:
(You may have to create a FamilySearch account before getting access to the site)
I have attached a screen snip of the relevant entry to this message. The handwriting is not particularly regular but I would certainly interpret the bride's name as Jane Bond - though I could be persuaded that it was Jone Band! Unfortunately we don't have the bride's own interpretation because only her mark is recorded. There is certainly no final 's' though family names tend to evolve over the centuries and picking up a final 's' is one common change.
Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 12, 2020 6:58:29 GMT -5
The true answer to this query is not easy given the bride could not sign her own name and neither of the witnesses was immediate family. But there are clues in the marriage record that may be helpful along with the names of the children that appear to be attributable to this marriage.
In the marriage record the name of the bride is written THREE times - in two of those cases the surname is very clearly BOND. In the other case which is actually the 2nd occurrence appearing on line 4 of the record the name is less clear but the connecting mark between the 'o' and the 'n' indicates again that the name is BOND. And Bond is a name familiar with Gulval and neighbouring Ludgvan and Madron whereas 'Band/s' is not.
Another point I just picked up on whilst reading this marriage record is that the brides forename is NOT JANE!!! It is actually JONE!! (Again this appears three times in the record and in the first and, especially, the third example (the signiature/mark) it is very, very clearly Jone)
The probable children for this marriage appear to be Jane, John, William, JONE, Richard, Richard and Ann with only the first having the mother's name recorded - 'Jane daughter of John and Jane Bond'. But even this is not certain given the quality of the image of the page of the register in which this entry appears. The Millett and Bolitho transcript interprets this as 'Jane' and it appears as such in the Bishops Transcripts - but a close examination of the image of the Parish Register entry suggests to me that the child's name may possibly be Jane but to me the mother's name is definitely JONE.
Also a problem is identifying a baptism for Jone/Jane Bond with only the following possible candidates that I can find:-
1730 Ludgvan - Jane daughter of Jasper Bond (she can be ruled out as she was buried in 1730) 1731 Ludgvan - Jone daughter of Jasper Bond 1733 Madron - Jane daughter of Stephen Bond 1741 Gulval - Jone daughter of Richard Bond
I would suggest the possibility that the wife of John James might well have been Jone daughter of Richard Bond baptised at Gulval 5th November 1741. (Parents probably Richard Bond and Phillis John who married at Ludgvan in 1723)
Thank you very much Roger and CT. Not only did you help with Jane/Jone you also led me find the marriage register myself. Now I am going to be like a pig in clover as I look for more of my West Cornwall relations. CT I was so pleased to see that you had exactly the children that I had. And Richard must be her father - she didn't name any of her children Jasper or Stephen. Regards for a very happy Jean