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Post by phonelady on Jan 9, 2020 21:26:02 GMT -5
spikeharwood said: I have DNA matches with some Furze descendants who married into my Wickett/Woof line. They were from Jacobstowe/Launceston area. I think there is another Furze line much further west.
tonymitch said: I have several Mary Furzes but only one Mary Elizabeth and she was born in 1889. However the one born in 1868 must be one of mine as she was buried in Lead [South Dakota, USA]. I vaguely heard about a William buried in Bald Mountain but don't have him as 'one of mine'. Never came across the Wicket/Woof line, but I am aware the the Furze s seem to have originated in Devon.
Hi Phonelady, All my crowd in Nevadaville [Colorado, USA] were Furze. Attached were Angwyn, Eddy and Williams with various alternative spellings (Furse, Purse, Purge) As far as I' aware, they didn't stay long in Nevadaville before leaving for Lead to work in the Homestake mine there possibly early 20th Century.
Tony, Where was Mary Elizabeth [the younger] born? Did she live in Colorado?
Cg
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 13, 2020 7:25:03 GMT -5
Ah-ha Carla...you caught me out! Mary Elizabeth Furze b 1889! was the daughter of John Thomas Furze (Blacksmith St Buryan) and Jane Furze (nee Trembath). She was the 5th of 8 children born to John Thomas and Jane. I haven't chased up details on these children but I now find we have a Mary Elizabeth Furze being registered in Penzance Dec 1888 (Free BMD) but BAPTISED in Feb 1889 ST Buryan....(OPC St Buryan). I really must be more careful. So....she was born St Buryan, but I haven't traced her further so do not know if she went across "the pond" Tony
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 13, 2020 10:07:46 GMT -5
OK...bit more research needed here.It doesn't look as though Mary Elizabeth (1868) is 'one of mine' even though she was buried in Lead. Using FreeBMD I can find no records of Mary Elizabeth Furze birth in the whole of the U.K. throughout the 1860 decade. Neither does she appear on the Cornwall OPC Site nor West Penwith Resources...so presumably she was born in the USA (as was Bruce Springsteen) Tony
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Post by zibetha on Jan 13, 2020 17:11:56 GMT -5
I believe she is connected to you-- Mary Elizabeth Clemens 1868-1929 was the wife of Philip Furze who was the brother of your Margaret Ann. Marriage was 2nd quarter of 1886 in Penzance RD.
Cheers! Zib
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Post by phonelady on Jan 13, 2020 17:53:21 GMT -5
Ok, it looks like this was Mary Elizabeth Clemens [born Feb 1868 in Redruth] who married Phillip H Furze [born about 1866 in Pendeen, OPC record 3045325 in the Baptisms database. Listed as Sancreed on the 1881 England Census]. They were married 3 April 1886 Cornwall. Elizabeth died 14 April 1929 in Aspen, Colorado [she may have been visiting her daughter who was working there as a teacher]. He died 18 Jan 1921 in Lead, Lawrence, South Dakota. They had a daughter, Mary [born 2 July 1901 in Nevadaville, Gilpin, Colorado].
Home for Mary E. and daughter Mary in 1925: Lead, Lawrence, South Dakota Home for all three in 1920:Lead Ward 1, Lawrence, South Dakota Home for all three in 1915: Lead, Lawrence, South Dakota Home for all three in 1910:Lead Ward 1, Lawrence, South Dakota. William Eddy [nephew] was also living there. Home for she and Phillip in 1900:Precinct 6,[Nevadaville] Gilpin, Colorado. His brother James Furze also living there. Phillip Furze listed in the 1871 England Census with parents William and Elizabeth Jane Furze. Civil Parish:St Just, Town: Bostrase, County/Island:Cornwall, Country:England Registration district: Penzance, Sub-registration district:St Just in Penwith
Looks like she and Phillip arrived in the USA in 1892, and South Dakota in 1907
She and Phillip are both buried in the West Lead Cemetery.
Cg
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Post by phonelady on Jan 13, 2020 18:16:16 GMT -5
Aspen Daily Times, April 19, 1929
DEATH OF MRS. FURZE
Mrs. Maty Elizabeth Eurze passed away at [8:00] Sunday morning at her home, 125 West Francis street: an unexpected attack of heart trouble being the cause of her passing. The body was prepared for shipment by Undertaker Wilkes, and, accompanied by her daughter, Miss Mary Furze, the remains left for Lead, South Dakota for burial. Mary Elizabeth Furze was born in Cornwall, England February 5, 1868, and was 61 years, 2 months and 9 days old at the time of her passing. For eighteen years she made her home at Nevadaville, Gilpin county, Colorado, but since for a number of years has resided at Lead, South Dakota and this city. Two years ago she came to Aspen with her daughter, who had been engaged as a member of the faculty of the Aspen High School. During her residence here, the deceased lady made a score of friends by her sweet and lovable disposition. All will join in extending deepest sympathy to the bereaved daughter.
[Ok, I feel better about her death listing. She apparently had two residences, one in Lead and one in Aspen. Cg]
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 13, 2020 19:09:43 GMT -5
So Mary Elizabeth was the wife of Phillip.She is definitely one of mine. I'm in touch with the extended family in the States and I even have a photograph of her daughter Mary. Zibetha is correct in saying that Phillip is brother to "My Margaret Ann". Indeed without Margaret Ann we wouldn't be having this conversation...she was my lovely grandmother. Tony M
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Post by phonelady on Jan 14, 2020 10:56:51 GMT -5
Oh! Margaret Ann is your gran! So, did Margaret Ann go to OZ or stay in Cornwall? Cg
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 15, 2020 6:41:49 GMT -5
Neither. She married James Mitchell a Cornish shoemaker, who had moved with his family in about 1890 to Cumberland, in 1891. They had one child in Cumberland in 1893 and moved to Lancashire by 1900 where they ad a further three children. Tony
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Post by phonelady on Jan 15, 2020 22:01:25 GMT -5
Well! I wouldn't have guessed that at all! I think I'd better widen my thinking as far as family search scope. Cg
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Post by zibetha on Jan 16, 2020 1:55:26 GMT -5
And back to the first message: I haven't found a death record, but there is a Find a Grave memorial for young William who died at 3 months of age. William Furze memorial It lists his parents as Philip and Mary. On the 1900 US Census, Mary Elizabeth indicated she was the mother of 1 child, but 0 living. I suspect that refers to young William since daughter, Mary, wasn't born till 1901. Zib
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 16, 2020 7:35:15 GMT -5
Thanks Zibetha. I've been doing a bit of digging around in my memory too as I remembered Bald Mountain Cemetery being linked in somehow with Furze and someone falling down a mine shaft. Found it yesterday. In 1885 Phillip Williams (half brother to my g-g-mother Elizabeth Furze) fell down the West Flack shaft. There is a report of the event in the Cornish Telegraph. Here is an extract from what I believe is the report.....In affectionate memory of Bro Phillip Williams of the hunting grounds of Nevadaville Colorado, who was killed by falling down the West Flack shaft on the third sun of hot moon GSD 394 whose remains were not recovered until the 27th sun of the same moon and interred in Bald Mountain cemetery the 28th of hot moon GSD 394 aged 33 great suns....Unfortunately I can't de-cypher the name of the presumably friendly society who published the news. Tony M
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Post by phonelady on Jan 17, 2020 14:09:08 GMT -5
Hi Tony, Was your Phillip Williams related to Thomas and Sophia Williams? Cg
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Post by zibetha on Jan 17, 2020 19:31:37 GMT -5
Carla,
I have the same question from the grave marker, and I cannot figure it out. I have identified Sophia, but that doesn't help. Is this the correct Philip? because I don't see Thomas as a brother or even a cousin yet, but the burial does indicate a family connection.
Zib
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 21, 2020 9:55:53 GMT -5
I have no record at all of a Sophia however Phillip, who fell down the mine shaft, has an uncle Thomas. Thomas (1815) is the son of Phillip and Margaret (married 1806.) Phillip's younger brother is John (1819) and Phillip (1852) who fell down the mine shaft is the son of John.
Tony M
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