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Post by phonelady on Dec 30, 2019 14:28:56 GMT -5
Hi All!
I'm back again with another family stumper from Colorado USA to Cornwall, England.
CT, you wrote:
Sep 15, 2019 at 1:59pm OptionsPost by Cornish Terrier on Sep 15, 2019 at 1:59pm
The only other information I can add at the moment is that Elizabeth Waters (wife of Martin Maddern) was baptized at Sennen 19th March 1820 to Richard Watters/Waters and his first wife Elizabeth Row. At the moment I have traced this Waters family back to the 1755 marriage of Daniel Waters and Margaret Shetfar at St Levan.
CT
I am trying to find this Watters family because they are part of my Nevadaville, Colorado folks.
So far I haven't found Elizabeth Watters baptism under the Walters, Watters or Waters family name.
Also, what was Richard's second wife's name?
Lately I've been interested in the Watters and Rowe folks in Cornwall because many of their children came over with or married into my Madderns.
Smiles!
Carla
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Post by londoner on Dec 30, 2019 17:09:15 GMT -5
Check the entries on the opc site using Sennen and enter just WA in the surname box. You will find that after Elizabeth died Richard married Mary George in 1822 but she died and he remarried Mary Trenowth in 1824.
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Post by phonelady on Dec 30, 2019 19:42:45 GMT -5
Thank you londoner,
I did not know you could search OPC with only a few letters!
Cg
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 2, 2020 12:32:17 GMT -5
Hi Carla,
Just spotted your posts on the site. I've not been very active over the past year for various reasons, but why I haven't been aware of your posts before, the Good Lord only knows.
I'm linked in to several of your names including Maddern Harvey and Rowe but what drew my attention to your posts were the two words Colorado and Waters. A few years ago I had a beautiful pen friendship with a woman from Colorado who was researching the several of your interesting names including Waters.
My family also emigrated to Nevadaville but ended up in Lead S.D. Whilst researching them I came across a very useful book "The Cornish Miner in America" by Dr Arthur Cecil Todd. Well worth seeing if you can buy a copy, or at least borrow one, which I managed to do, from the local library. How else would I have discovered that Annie Angwin sang at the Opera House in Central City?
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Post by phonelady on Jan 2, 2020 14:24:40 GMT -5
Hi tonymitch! Yep, I knew about Maryliyn through Dolly. My connection is through the Rafferty family. They are Richards/Harvey folks with the various in-laws and out-laws. Then from there I ended up volunteering with foothill genealogy society. foothillsgenealogy.org/index.phpIf you have any Gilpin, Clear Creek, Jefferson or Park County - Colorado mining families, then this is the place to go for documents and tidbits of history. [I found the Gilpin County marriage record books in a safe up in the County building. They didn't know what they were! We got to thumb through and take pictures of marriages in the 1800's for Nevadaville and other mining towns up in the Rockies. FGS volunteers are currently indexing the records!] "The Cornish Miner in America" by Dr Arthur Cecil Todd looks like an exciting book! I'm going to try and get that one in! What are your family names that were in Nevadaville? Maybe I have them in my family files! Smiles! Carla |
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 4, 2020 11:10:17 GMT -5
Hi Phonelady, (interesting pseudonym) All my crowd in Nevadaville were Furze. Attached were Angwyn Eddy and Williams with various alternative spellings (Furse, Purse, Purge) As far as I' aware, they didn't stay long in Nevadaville before leaving for Lead to work in the Homestake mine there possibly early 20th Century.
Interesting that you had heard of Marilyn, I didn't mention her name, but who's Dolly? That is a new one to me.
Tony M
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 4, 2020 21:15:54 GMT -5
Hi All - I am still extremely busy with the fires down here so unable to have much input for a good while yet.
I have done a good bit of work on the Wa?ters families of Sennen and surrounding Parishes so will try and review all the posts here and check against my latest information as soon as I can get a chance. Off back to the Corryong fires in a couple of hours.
CT
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Post by zibetha on Jan 6, 2020 5:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by zibetha on Jan 6, 2020 6:02:10 GMT -5
Not quite a koala
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Post by spikeharwood on Jan 6, 2020 6:03:25 GMT -5
Stay safe CT. Im on my way back from a cruise to New Zealand.
At 100 miles off the coast of Aust we were actually shrouded in smoke from the NSW bushfires.
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Post by spikeharwood on Jan 6, 2020 6:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by tonymitch on Jan 6, 2020 6:38:02 GMT -5
Koalas aint bears Zibetha....All the best CT. I've been thinking about you and wishing you good health and success.
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Post by phonelady on Jan 6, 2020 16:26:38 GMT -5
Hi All - I am still extremely busy with the fires down here so unable to have much input for a good while yet. I have done a good bit of work on the Wa?ters families of Sennen and surrounding Parishes so will try and review all the posts here and check against my latest information as soon as I can get a chance. Off back to the Corryong fires in a couple of hours. CT Ah, I hope everything turns out ok CT. We'll wait for your return. Cg |
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Post by phonelady on Jan 6, 2020 17:25:57 GMT -5
Hi Phonelady, (interesting pseudonym) All my crowd in Nevadaville were Furze. Attached were Angwyn Eddy and Williams with various alternative spellings (Furse, Purse, Purge) As far as I' aware, they didn't stay long in Nevadaville before leaving for Lead to work in the Homestake mine there possibly early 20th Century. Interesting that you had heard of Marilyn, I didn't mention her name, but who's Dolly? That is a new one to me. Tony M Hi Tony, Yep, Phonelady. I was in Commo in the Army in my younger years. Then when the internet became a thing I was the keeper of the military communications equipment web page. Still love old phones! Dolly is the descendant of Emma Marie Maddern who married Gilbert Hill. She is direct line from William Thomas and Mary Jane "Janie" Harvey Maddern. I got in contact with her because I was researching Janie Harvey Maddern Richards' boy, Pat Richards. Was your rellie Mary Elizabeth Ferze who was born about 1868 in Cornwall? Her daughter moved to Aspen and went to work at the high school. Mary died in Aspen in 1929 and was taken to Lead to be buried. Ah, that's where I know the Furze name. William Furze is buried in Bald Mountain Cemetery! I was doing research for another mining family that went from Colorado to Lead, S.D. You know, miners kinda circulate around the western US. I'm over here in Ely, Nevada now and several family names I have traced go from Colorado into Utah, Nevada, the Dakotas, Arizona and New Mexico. And alot of the Cornish started out in Michigan before they came west. Give me some names and dates of people you are researching if you want me to look i nthe Colorado newspapers for you. It's always fun to read the gossipy tidbits in old mining town newspapers! Smiles! Carla |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jan 6, 2020 22:18:47 GMT -5
Hi All and thanks for the best wishes - I am home for now although probably only for a couple of days. Conditions are tipped to deteriorate again from about Thursday and we still have a minimum of two months of the 'normal' fire season to go!!
As mentioned recently I have this Waters/Watters/Walters line back to the 1755 St Levan marriage of Daniel Waters of St Levan and Margaret Shetfar also of St Levan. Daniel was buried at St Levan in 1820 at the age of 91 so born sometime around 1728/9. Margaret predeceased Daniel and was buried at St Levan in 1810 but her age was not recorded.
There was a Daniel son of John Walters baptized at Penzance 1st November 1727 but I am not prepared to accept this as the same Daniel just yet. There appear to be two John Waters/Watters/Walters involved at St Just and at Madron/Penzance from about 1709 to about 1740 but only one possible marriage showing in the OPC records.
With children spread over 30 years it is more likely than not that these were two separate families so a search for Wills might be needed to try and separate them.
CT
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