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Post by Glazin2018 on Oct 30, 2019 2:50:14 GMT -5
CT and others
I am looking for transcriptions of the following early UREN wills from Lelant.
1. Edmund Uren dated 1684;
2. Simon Uren dated 1689; and
3. Clement Uren dated 1660.
If they are not available anywhere I will order in a copy.
Lannanta
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Post by londoner on Oct 30, 2019 8:31:28 GMT -5
CT and others I am looking for transcriptions of the following early UREN wills from Lelant. 1. Edmund Uren dated 1684; Lannanta c Abstract from Kathies list, I haven't looked for the other two. EDMOND YURION (UREN), tinner, of Towednack written: 6 Aug 1684 proved: 28 Apr 1685 wife: ALLS YURYON 1/4 of all estate eldest son: RICHARD YORYON and children 1/4 part of all estate son: HENNERY YURYON 1/4 part of all estate VINCENT YURYON'S 2 sons 1/4 part between them when they come of age guardians: their 2 uncles RICHARD YURYON & HENNERY YURYON servant: GILLYON TAYLOR 20 sh. sister: (not named) to be maintained as long as she live Edmond ( ) Yuryon witnesses: FFRANCIS HAMMOND, JOHN WOLLCOCK, THOMAS TREWHELLA Admon granted to RICHARD UREN of St. Ives, yeoman; HENRY UREN of Gwinear, yeoman; Bondsmen THOMAS CORNOW of Towednack & WILLIAM BUSSOW of St. Ives, yeomen. Inventory taken 1 November 1684 by HENRY EDWARDS of Ludgven, gent & JOHN QUICKE of Towednack, miller |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 30, 2019 16:06:32 GMT -5
Lannanta - I don't have those in my collection as far as I can see but I may be able to get hold of them for you so long as I can determine the Cataloge Numbers for them (AP/U/xxxx). Getting those numbers used to be fairly easy on the old CROCat site but since that has been transferred to the new Kresen Kurnow website it is extremely difficult. What a shambles that site seems to be!!! almost impossible to find anything and the instructions on searching are absolutely abysmal from my recent experiences.  Londoner has supplied the abstract for one but I may also have abstracts of the other two in which case I may be able to get those Cat Nos I need. Will let you know if I have any success. CT |
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Post by Glazin2018 on Oct 30, 2019 23:14:38 GMT -5
Londoner, thanks very much for that.
CT, I know the number for Simon is AP/U/55. I actually found Clements on Family Search but I think some of it is in Latin perhaps - it was on or about page 120 of the U+V section.. or it is just hard for me to read.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 31, 2019 6:20:51 GMT -5
Are you sure? - According to Kathie's old transcripts AP/U/55 was for Edmund Yurion (Uren) in 1864. And AP/U/65 was for Richard Uryn of St Ives 1691.
I will try and get on to FamilySearch and check this out.
CT
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Post by londoner on Oct 31, 2019 6:41:29 GMT -5
Londoner, thanks very much for that. CT, I know the number for Simon is AP/U/55. I actually found Clements on Family Search but I think some of it is in Latin perhaps - it was on or about page 120 of the U+V section.. or it is just hard for me to read. Lannanta Simon 1660 is AP/U/29. The only Clement I could find was 1736 AP/U/109 I see what you mean about the search CT, I couldn't get the same result twice! |
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 31, 2019 6:57:23 GMT -5
I have found the Wills for Edmund Uren and Simon Uren (see emails) but have not been able to locate the one for Clement in 1660. The FamilySearch Wills for 'U' cover 1601-1649 then 1660 to about 1689 in the next folder but Clement does not appear in the Index and he is certainly not in the first several Wills of the 1660 batch. I also checked the PCC Wills but unless the name is spelt very peculiarly then I could not find him there either.  CT |
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Post by Glazin2018 on Oct 31, 2019 14:44:34 GMT -5
CT
I certainly found Clement using that FamilySearch link you sent me quite some time ago... but really hard to read. I have sent you a Dropbox link that I received from a researcher with both of Clements wills, a Lelant one and also a London version.
I have sort of been trying to link the Clement/Simon/Henry Uren family to Edmund Uren but at the moment none of the information supports that view..... there are just a few names that seem to be common to both.
I appreciate the images you supplied.
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 1, 2019 0:33:44 GMT -5
That Simon Uren Will is for Gwennap but if it is required I do have a copy. I don't have Clement's from 1736 but should be able to get it if required.
The new site really is a 'horror' as far as my experiences to date have shown. With the old CROCat site all you had to do was enter the Parish name in the 'place' field and then 'ap/' and it would bring up a list of all Wills for that particular parish. In the new site I can find no possible way to do anything similar.
CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 1, 2019 0:35:09 GMT -5
Past experience has indicated that wherever you find a Uren (var.) family in the West of Cornwall you will find at least a Clement somewhere along the line!
CT
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Post by Glazin2018 on Nov 2, 2019 0:59:28 GMT -5
CT
I now have all the pre 1837 Clement Urens from the Lelant general area into their pigeon holes. Just some Calstock, Cambore and St Gluvias ones to go.
Slow work
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 2, 2019 1:24:47 GMT -5
I may have to get a brief summary of your findings on that. I think I only ever had a cursory look to see if I could link a few of them as they were less important than other projects at the time. But I do have some Uren connections along the way.
Much of this will be on hold this week in any case. It looks like I will be flying up to Northern New South Wales on Wednesday to assist in the firefighting up there for a few days.
CT
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Post by Glazin2018 on Nov 2, 2019 3:04:10 GMT -5
CT
Do you have the marriage of Vincent Uren to Ann Nicholls at Gulval in 1758 in your database, and if so who do you have as the parents of Vincent?
Lannanta
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Nov 2, 2019 7:04:07 GMT -5
I currently have him with unknown parents but as he named a son George and also had a brother of that name it would not surprise me to find that his father was also a George Uren.
CT
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Post by Glazin2018 on Nov 2, 2019 15:11:18 GMT -5
CT
Yes I seem to have made an error there. I originally had him as the son of Edmund and Christian Bennetts (that Vincent bap 1727) but now that I see the marriage witness was George Uren I am sure that I have it wrong. I am thinking instead that he was bap 1733, son of another Vincent which would give him a brother George and an uncle George at his wedding in Gulval.
Look after yourself on Wednesday.
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