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Post by cornishmaid on Jun 1, 2019 10:25:31 GMT -5
Hello I am investigating a DNA connection, and need a bit of help please. My apologies if this has been asked before, but I've searched other threads and can't find anything. On 9 January 1813 in Ludgvan, Hannibal Curnow married Alice Rowe, both of the parish of Ludgvan; witnesses were John Rowe and John Rowe Junior. They had 3 children: Thomas, Mary and John. When Hannibal died, Alice married again, this time to Joseph White on 4 September 1819; again the witnesses were John Rowe and John Rowe Junior. There were two Alice Rowes baptised around the same date, one on 24 December 1786 in Gulval, daughter of John Rowe (whose wife may have been Mary Trewhella); the other baptised in Ludgvan on 29 July 1787 to William Rowe and Dorothy Clements. So, my question is, which of these Alices married Hannibal Curnow and Joseph White? I have an inkling, but no substantial "proof" as such. Many thanks in advance for any help.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 1, 2019 14:09:03 GMT -5
Well …………… long time, no hear! Great to have you back again. I did some work on this Rowe side not too long ago leading into my Trewhella 'overhaul' and I am now quite satisfied that this particular Alice Rowe was the daughter of John Rowe and his third wife Mary Trewhela. Your research into this DNA match might help prove a few of the conclusions I have arrived at. Briefly, I concluded the following regarding the lineage of Alice Rowe and of Mary Trewhela. 1. Alice Rowe - I believe her father John Rowe to have been baptized at Towednack 17th March 1732 to John Row and Prudence Noall. John Row senior I believe to have been baptized at Towednack in 1702 to James Rowe and Alice Berryman whilst Prudence Noall was the daughter of John Noall and Prudence Quick. James Rowe had a sister Patience who was buried at St Ives in 1741 with Admon. being granted to James Woolcock (principal creditor), James Rowe (brother), nephew Nicholas Berryman and nieces Elizabeth 'now wife of Samuel Bottrell' and Margaret 'now wife of Simon Thomas'. John Rowe (1732) was first married to Zenobia Baragwanath by whom he appears to have had just one son - Richard (1761-1837). Zenobia 'wife of John Rowe of Gulvall' was buried at Towednack in 1767 after which John Rowe married a Jane Edwards (Gulval 1776). This marriage seems to have produced just one daughter named Ann baptized at Gulval also in 1776 and then Jane also appears to have died although I am yet to identify a burial. In 1778 John married for a third time to Mary Trewhela and produced a further nine children - Mary, Zenobia, John, Alice, Prudence, Jane, Alexander, Sarah and James. 2. Mary Trewhela - I was finally able to identify her via the 1814 burial of Ann Trewhella at Ludgvan. The entry showed the surname Trewhella written over the name 'Tregear' which had been crossed out and that gave me the link I had been looking for over many years. James Trewhela and Ann Tregear were married at Crowan in 1760 and Mary was their only child. Many years ago Heather Carbis produced a transcript of a Settlement for a James Trewhela from Gulval back to Crowan where he had been born. I now have a copy of that Settlement which also mentions that James had been employed at Ludgvan for many years. He was buried at Gulval in 1787. Hope that is helpful for you and I will be interested in the progress of this DNA match. CT
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Post by cornishmaid on Jun 3, 2019 5:13:04 GMT -5
CT, it's good to be back, and thank you so much for your reply Not only have you verified my thoughts, but with the extra information you've given me, I've been able to connect my DNA match to my tree as a 7th cousin 1x removed! Great stuff, you little angel My DNA match had the parents of Alice as William Rowe and Dorothy Clements, but I was sure this particular Alice was the daughter of John Rowe and Mary Trewhella, given the witnesses to both her weddings, and the fact that there were 2 Alices baptised around the same time. She has happily changed her tree accordingly. Thank you again. CM
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 3, 2019 6:42:02 GMT -5
Always a pleasure. And I do hope you will be sticking around for a while now. CT
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Post by cornishmaid on Jun 4, 2019 6:37:08 GMT -5
I certainly shall May need to pick your brains again very shortly, hee hee x
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jun 4, 2019 7:56:42 GMT -5
That's great to hear and ask away anytime.
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